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[Zak] <i>Ladies and gentlemen,</i>
<i>I am in Simi Valley,</i>
<i>California</i>

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<i>and I'm very excited</i>

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because we have just
secured a location

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that was used in the filming

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of one of the most classic
horror films

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in American history.

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Now this film was produced
by Steven Spielberg,

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<i>directed by Tobe Hooper.</i>

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This film was full
of conflict, controversy

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and a curse.

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This is not only
an iconic location,

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but this is an absolutely
historic investigation

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<i>for the</i> host Adventures <i>crew.</i>

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Ladies and gentlemen,
buckle up.

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Get ready.

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We are going to investigate
the <i>Poltergeist</i> ouse.

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They're here.

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[opening theme music playing]

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<i>There are things in this world</i>
<i>that we will never</i>
<i>fully understand.</i>

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<i>Understand.</i>

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<i>We want answers.</i>

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<i>We have worked years</i>
<i>to build our credibility,</i>

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<i>our reputation.</i>

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<i>Working alongside</i>
<i>the most renowned</i>
<i>professionals in the field.</i>

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<i>Capturing groundbreaking proof</i>
<i>of the paranormal.</i>

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-It's working!
-I can't give you
an explanation.

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[Zak] <i>This is our evidence.</i>

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<i>Our</i> host Adventures.

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-Aaron, Jay, you guys there?
-Yeah, we're here.

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We can hear you.

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What are you guys feeling
right now?

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Weird. It's like this weird,
eerie feeling.

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Well, there's so many stories,
the movie, the production,
everything.

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I feel weird, like nervous
and scared, but happy
and excited.

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-It's weird.
-This has been such
an iconic film my entire life.

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-It's one of the most
classic horror films.
-[Aaron] Yeah.

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It's so weird to say that
as a little boy,

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how things happen in life.

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And there I was, just a,
like I said, a little boy

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watching this movie,
more terrified about

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the clown doll
in <i>Poltergeist</i> han anything

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<i>that I've ever seen</i>
<i>in my entire life.</i>

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And the way that I face
my fears is now I own

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what I was once scared of.

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[all laughing]

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[Zak] <i>Not only do I own</i>
<i>the clown doll that was used</i>

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in the movie, but look at
where we're going right now.

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This house has been owned
by the same family, I believe,

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<i>for 45 years.</i>

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Oh, wow.

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And the story just broke
on worldwide media

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<i>that the house was for sale</i>
<i>last month.</i>

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And here we are driving
through the neighborhood

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to investigate
the <i>Poltergeist</i> ouse.

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-Wow.
<i>-So there's a lot of truth</i>
<i>behind the parallels</i>

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of the reality of the house
and where it sits
to the movie.

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<i>The</i> oltergeist <i>franchise</i>
<i>is an icon of horror.</i>

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<i>It begins with the story of</i>
<i>a family who unknowingly moves</i>

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<i>into a house built on</i>
<i>a Native American</i>
<i>burial ground.</i>

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<i>What follows is a malevolent</i>
<i>force that tries to destroy</i>

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<i>the family and the home</i>
<i>itself.</i>

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<i>It turns out the home</i>
<i>where the film was shot</i>

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<i>is actually built on</i>
<i>Chumash land.</i>

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<i>And some believe this caused</i>
<i>a curse that terrorized</i>

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<i>the cast and crew of the film.</i>

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<i>June 4th, 1982,</i>
Poltergeist <i>hits theaters.</i>

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<i>The film instantly becomes</i>
<i>a nationwide phenomenon.</i>

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<i>Five months after</i>
<i>its release,</i>

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<i>actress Dominique Dunne,</i>
<i>who played the eldest daughter</i>

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<i>of the Freeling family,</i>
<i>is strangled to death by</i>
<i>her ex-boyfriend.</i>

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<i>Her senseless murder shakes</i>
<i>Hollywood to its core.</i>

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<i>1985.</i>

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<i>On the set of</i> oltergeist II,
<i>the cast and crew is plagued</i>

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<i>by lights falling,</i>
<i>shadow figures,</i>
<i>and strange noises.</i>

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<i>Actor and real-life shaman</i>
<i>Will Sampson is asked</i>

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<i>to perform an exorcism</i>
<i>on the set.</i>

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<i>And while it helps the cast</i>
<i>and crew finish</i>
<i>the 64-day shoot,</i>

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<i>it has unforeseen</i>
<i>consequences.</i>

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<i>Will Sampson dies</i>
<i>two years later</i>
<i>from complications</i>

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<i>of a heart and lung</i>
<i>transplant.</i>

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<i>September 14th, 1985,</i>
<i>during the film's</i>
<i>post-production,</i>

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<i>actor Julian Beck passes away</i>
<i>from cancer.</i>

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<i>February 1st, 1988,</i>
<i>four months before the release</i>

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<i>of</i> oltergeist III,
<i>actress Heather O'Rourke,</i>

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<i>who played the beloved</i>
<i>Carol Anne in all three</i>
<i>of the</i> oltergeist <i>films,</i>

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<i>tragically dies of</i>
<i>a mysterious illness</i>
<i>at the young age of 12.</i>

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<i>News of her untimely death</i>
<i>races across the globe.</i>

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<i>January 2004,</i>
Poltergeist II <i>director</i>

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<i>Brian Gibson dies at age 59</i>
<i>of bone cancer.</i>

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<i>April 1st, 2009,</i>
<i>actor Lou Perryman</i>

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<i>is murdered with an axe.</i>

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This is it, you guys.
This is the street.

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Wow.

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Do you see it?

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Oh, my God,
this is it right here.

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[Aaron] Oh, my God, it is.

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Look at that.

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I am not lost for words
many times,

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but right now, there's a photo
of Heather O'Rourke,

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and I believe
she's sitting down.

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I believe she's sitting right
here playing with her doll.

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And whenever I saw that,
I said, "Man,

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I would do anything
to investigate that house."

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There is a reason why
we were able to have access

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to this place less than
a month after it was sold.

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There's a reason
why we were reached.

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There's a reason why
we're standing here right now.

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And if it has anything to do
with any of those that

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were affected by
the film's curse

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or the family

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that lived in here during
filming and the ones
who just sold it,

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<i>three members of that family</i>
<i>died inside of this house.</i>

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<i>The most recent death</i>
<i>took place in 2020.</i>

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<i>Is the</i> oltergeist <i>curse</i>
<i>still active?</i>

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<i>Does it continue</i>
<i>to wreak havoc on those</i>

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<i>who step foot inside</i>
<i>this home, even to this day?</i>

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And the crazy part about
this investigation

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is nobody has officially
investigated the curse

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of the film and where
it could have potentially
originated from.

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This is the house
they filmed at.

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They filmed a lot here.

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-Yeah.
-And the plot of the film
is what?

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-Based on a house
that's on sacred ground.
-Built on a burial ground.

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On sacred ground of
Native Americans, right?

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-Which this--
-Most likely would be that.

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This is sacred ground
of the Chumash.

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Just behind this house,
you can see the mountain
right there.

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-See the mountain?
See the top of it?
-[Jay] Yeah.

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That was one of
the largest villages

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-of the Chumash in
Southern California.
-Oh, yeah.

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The truth that lies underneath
of this house,

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the truth in the history
of Simi Valley.

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Was that truth the actual plot
for <i>The Poltergeist?</i>

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-It pretty much was.
-Yeah.

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And when they filmed here,
and when they carried out

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<i>these scenes involving</i>
<i>real skeletons dug</i>
<i>into the ground,</i>

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-did that desecrate the ground
and the house?
-[Aaron] Yeah.

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I have big news.

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We flew in somebody
that was very important

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during the production
of the <i>Poltergeist</i> ilms.

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The psychic advisor.

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-Really? Wow.
-The real life psychic
that advised the film staff,

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-the crew, the director,
the cast, everybody.
-Wow.

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Her name is
Jill Cook Richards.

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Ladies and gentlemen
at home, Billy, Jay, Aaron,

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this is an absolute
iconic investigation.

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And for the first time,
we're not just investigating
a house.

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We're investigating a curse.

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<i>To begin our investigation,</i>
<i>we've asked the homeowner</i>

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<i>for permission to explore</i>
<i>the home alone in an attempt</i>

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<i>to connect with</i>
<i>the energy here</i>
<i>without any influence.</i>

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They're here.

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[soft music playing]

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Oh, my gosh.

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So this is the kitchen.

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<i>In</i> oltergeist <i>1,</i> <i>you see /em</i>
<i>Heather O'Rourke here.</i>

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It's really heavy
in here, dude.

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-Oh, my gosh.
-Dude, look at this, Zach.

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-That's the remote for the TV.
-Oh, my gosh.

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-Oh, bro, I just got chills.
-[static]

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-Hold on, hold on.
-Dude.

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Hold on, hold on, hold on.

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[static]

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Oh, my gosh.

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I first discovered that
the house was for sale.

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Actually, I kind of knew
it was for sale.

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And I don't know how or why.

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Um, I just knew.

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And I actually didn't see
the ad until

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<i>even another week or two.</i>

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It just kind of magically
appeared in my feed

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and kind of fast forward
and put in an offer
and here I am.

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I know this was just a scene
in a fictional movie,

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but that fictional movie
had something to do with
a very real curse.

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But I could not come
to the <i>Poltergeist</i> ouse

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without seeing this TV
and not turning it on
and touching the screen.

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Now, within
Paranormal Investigations,

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there's something called ITC.
Billy, talk to me about
what ITC is.

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ITC is Instrumental
Transcommunication.

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It's when you use
electronic devices to try

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and use the electromagnetic
field and devices

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to get communication
through those devices.

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And there are many different
types of ITC devices.

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We use several.

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[Zak] <i>This home is built</i>
<i>on land that</i>
<i>the Chumash people</i>

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<i>have a sacred connection to.</i>

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<i>A connection that lives on</i>
<i>to this very day.</i>

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So this is Beverly Folkes.

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She is an elder
with the Tatavian tribe,

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as well as Chumash.
And this is Cheryl.

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-Cheryl, pleasure to meet you.
-I'm a senator for the tribe.

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-Senator
for the tribe, really?
-Yes.

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Well, first off,
thank you both so much
for coming here.

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So, okay,
any discoveries here?

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Do you know where
the burial grounds would be?

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So I was going to say,
so Chumash and Tataviam tribes

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have been here for such
a long period of time.

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So we know at least
13,000 years.

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-That's unfathomable.
-And we're still here.

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-Yes.
-I like to say that too.

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Sorry.

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Throughout time,
their village sites changed.

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So let's say 5,000 years ago,
they lived at the village
of Ta'apu,

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and they had their burial
right next to it.

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But that was maybe just
1,000 years or so.

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-Right, right.
-So what about before that?

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It would have been here,
there.

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Where did the Chumash live?
How close to this area?

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They could have actually lived
right here.

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-Because this was
all open land.
-Really?

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And this is where
they settled,

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-the Chumash and the Tataviam.
-Okay.

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And they were all over
this area.

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-Really?
-So they could very well
have been right here.

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00:13:07,467 --> 00:13:10,867
Let's just theorize
that this could have been

216
00:13:10,867 --> 00:13:13,000
a burial ground right here.

217
00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:18,800
They talk about a curse
that afflicted the cast

218
00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,900
and the crew on the film.

219
00:13:20,900 --> 00:13:25,667
And they also experienced
a lot of supernatural events

220
00:13:25,667 --> 00:13:29,000
to where they had to have
a real exorcism on set.

221
00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,367
So in the movie,
this swimming pool

222
00:13:31,367 --> 00:13:33,367
that we're looking at
right now,

223
00:13:33,367 --> 00:13:38,100
this was the actual hole
that was dug for a scene

224
00:13:38,100 --> 00:13:39,200
with the actress.

225
00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,266
<i>She was in here,</i>
<i>and they put a bunch</i>
<i>of humans,</i>

226
00:13:42,266 --> 00:13:46,500
real-life human skeletons
in the pool with her.

227
00:13:46,500 --> 00:13:49,200
<i>And she was screaming,</i>
<i>and they were using</i>

228
00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,066
these skeletons as props
for the film.

229
00:13:52,066 --> 00:13:54,800
I want to ask you,
while they dug the hole

230
00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,266
in this ground right here,

231
00:13:57,266 --> 00:13:59,467
could that initiate something

232
00:13:59,467 --> 00:14:02,667
like a curse
or angry spirits?

233
00:14:02,667 --> 00:14:04,200
It could.

234
00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:08,567
I've been involved
with burials

235
00:14:08,567 --> 00:14:11,100
and in several
different areas,

236
00:14:11,100 --> 00:14:13,066
some neighborhoods.

237
00:14:13,066 --> 00:14:17,367
I was called on one
where it was right in
a neighborhood

238
00:14:17,367 --> 00:14:20,000
like this, and they were
building a home,

239
00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,700
and they found a burial.

240
00:14:22,700 --> 00:14:24,567
The whole neighborhood
was scared.

241
00:14:24,567 --> 00:14:26,266
They were...

242
00:14:26,266 --> 00:14:28,200
Scared of what?

243
00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:32,100
They were scared of the fact
that remains had been found.

244
00:14:33,767 --> 00:14:37,500
[Zak] <i>I now ask this woman,</i>
<i>who is a Chumash elder,</i>

245
00:14:37,500 --> 00:14:41,200
<i>if disturbing these remains</i>
<i>found on home sites</i>

246
00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,266
<i>could cause an angry spirit.</i>

247
00:14:44,467 --> 00:14:45,667
I know one thing for sure.

248
00:14:45,667 --> 00:14:47,667
As beautiful as those homes
are,

249
00:14:47,667 --> 00:14:51,600
and if they wanted
to give it to me,
I wouldn't move in there.

250
00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,867
Why? Because of the activity?

251
00:14:53,867 --> 00:14:59,567
Because I know that
I would feel like
I was invading the spirits.

252
00:14:59,567 --> 00:15:01,200
-That's the way I would feel.
-Really?

253
00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,500
And could this possibly
be replicating that?

254
00:15:05,500 --> 00:15:09,100
Could this situation here
possibly be replicating that?

255
00:15:09,100 --> 00:15:10,266
It could.

256
00:15:10,266 --> 00:15:13,300
[Zak] <i>Did the film crew</i>
<i>unknowingly disturb</i>

257
00:15:13,300 --> 00:15:15,900
<i>a sacred burial</i>
<i>when digging the pool?</i>

258
00:15:16,867 --> 00:15:19,867
<i>And did their use of</i>
<i>real human skeletons</i>

259
00:15:19,867 --> 00:15:22,767
<i>combined with</i>
<i>a very emotional scene</i>

260
00:15:22,767 --> 00:15:26,166
<i>unlock a gateway</i>
<i>to a forbidden dimension</i>

261
00:15:26,166 --> 00:15:30,133
<i>that has injected</i>
<i>this property with a curse?</i>

262
00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,867
<i>I send Billy inside the home</i>
<i>to get an EMF baseline.</i>

263
00:15:36,867 --> 00:15:39,867
[Billy]
I was taking readings
with the Trifield meter,

264
00:15:39,867 --> 00:15:43,166
and it was like a half
of a milligauss, not even one.

265
00:15:43,166 --> 00:15:45,700
The whole upstairs, nothing.

266
00:15:45,700 --> 00:15:49,567
[Zak] <i>While Aaron attempts</i>
<i>to capture photographic</i>
<i>evidence.</i>

267
00:15:49,567 --> 00:15:51,867
[Aaron] So right now,
we're just walking around

268
00:15:51,867 --> 00:15:53,166
with lights all on.

269
00:15:53,166 --> 00:15:55,500
You and me are pretty much
the only one in the house,

270
00:15:55,500 --> 00:15:58,300
<i>and we're just snapping</i>
<i>pictures and trying to capture</i>
<i>something.</i>

271
00:15:59,367 --> 00:16:01,100
The first time visiting
the house

272
00:16:01,100 --> 00:16:04,200
was for a tour of the house.

273
00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,000
And it was pretty uneventful,

274
00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,100
just like any other
house tour.

275
00:16:08,100 --> 00:16:10,767
But when I came back
for inspections,

276
00:16:10,767 --> 00:16:12,000
there were a couple times

277
00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:17,800
that I got very kind of dizzy,
felt like I was being kind of

278
00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,166
like pulled down,
I was nauseous, lightheaded,

279
00:16:21,166 --> 00:16:24,567
and I had to go sit on
the stairs

280
00:16:24,567 --> 00:16:26,100
for a period of time.

281
00:16:26,100 --> 00:16:29,166
I got a little kind of chill
in the back of my arms.

282
00:16:29,166 --> 00:16:32,700
It all happened simultaneously
at the same time

283
00:16:32,700 --> 00:16:37,266
and I'm a pretty
healthy person,

284
00:16:37,266 --> 00:16:39,567
so it's very, very out
of character for me

285
00:16:39,567 --> 00:16:42,467
when I left the building,
I was normal.

286
00:16:42,467 --> 00:16:44,266
Everything returned to normal.

287
00:16:49,500 --> 00:16:51,066
Roll, roll, roll.

288
00:16:53,500 --> 00:16:55,367
-What?
-So...

289
00:16:55,367 --> 00:16:58,000
We were up, like you said,
go in there, take some
Polaroids,

290
00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,667
do some EMF,
just check it out, right?

291
00:16:59,667 --> 00:17:01,467
So we've been in here
doing it, the whole thing.

292
00:17:01,467 --> 00:17:04,166
I come out,
and you're standing here,

293
00:17:04,166 --> 00:17:06,567
and the lights start
flickering on and off.

294
00:17:06,567 --> 00:17:07,967
-What?
-Were you in the camera?

295
00:17:07,967 --> 00:17:09,667
-He was in there.
-We were in the garage.

296
00:17:09,667 --> 00:17:11,066
I'm like, Bill, come here,
come here.

297
00:17:11,066 --> 00:17:13,300
Okay, so if we didn't capture
it on camera,

298
00:17:13,300 --> 00:17:16,367
I would need to ask the owner,
a third party witness,
were they flickering?

299
00:17:16,367 --> 00:17:17,266
Yes.

300
00:17:17,266 --> 00:17:19,266
Can you grab me an EMF,
please?

301
00:17:19,266 --> 00:17:20,600
So let's just turn this on.

302
00:17:22,567 --> 00:17:23,867
Is there somebody here?

303
00:17:24,900 --> 00:17:26,867
Hold on, hold on.
Oh, my God.

304
00:17:26,867 --> 00:17:28,700
-Did you just see that?
-[Rachel] Yeah.

305
00:17:28,700 --> 00:17:31,166
I will say that
she is my witness,

306
00:17:31,166 --> 00:17:34,000
and I'm filming this as well.
There's another spike.

307
00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,100
Oh, my gosh.

308
00:17:35,867 --> 00:17:37,600
[Zak] <i>This is remarkable.</i>

309
00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,867
<i>Billy just scanned</i>
<i>the entire house</i>

310
00:17:39,867 --> 00:17:43,100
<i>and got EMF readings of less</i>
<i>than one milligauss.</i>

311
00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,767
<i>Are these spikes an indication</i>
<i>of resistance to our presence?</i>

312
00:17:48,767 --> 00:17:52,100
That is why we use
scientific instruments.

313
00:17:52,100 --> 00:17:53,467
[dramatic music playing]

314
00:18:00,667 --> 00:18:03,266
<i>This is the moment</i>
<i>we've been waiting for.</i>

315
00:18:03,266 --> 00:18:07,166
<i>Jill Cook Richards,</i>
<i>the psychic who worked closely</i>

316
00:18:07,166 --> 00:18:09,800
<i>with the</i> oltergeist II <i>crew,</i>
<i>has arrived.</i>

317
00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,166
Hi, I'm Zach.

318
00:18:11,166 --> 00:18:12,467
-Oh, I'm Jill.
-Hi, Jill.

319
00:18:12,467 --> 00:18:14,000
Nice to meet you.

320
00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,367
Okay, see this?
This is a letter from
Brian Gibson, the director.

321
00:18:17,367 --> 00:18:19,567
-Oh, wow.
-It talks about all
the stuff that I did.

322
00:18:19,567 --> 00:18:23,567
So this is an actual letter
from the director.

323
00:18:23,567 --> 00:18:25,000
A copy from the director.

324
00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,266
Now, you worked on
<i>Poltergeist II.</i>

325
00:18:28,266 --> 00:18:30,100
-Two.
-Right, right.

326
00:18:30,100 --> 00:18:32,400
Wow, now that
we are in the final stretches

327
00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,100
of completing <i>Poltergeist II,</i>
I really want to thank you

328
00:18:35,100 --> 00:18:38,967
<i>for all your wonderful help</i>
<i>over the last 18 months.</i>

329
00:18:38,967 --> 00:18:40,867
<i>18 months you worked on</i>
<i>this movie.</i>

330
00:18:40,867 --> 00:18:42,400
I worked on this a lot.

331
00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,266
You've been a help
in many, many ways

332
00:18:44,266 --> 00:18:47,400
in giving your reactions
to the script and the film

333
00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,667
<i>and offering me your thoughts</i>
<i>and opinions about</i>
<i>the astral plane.</i>

334
00:18:50,667 --> 00:18:54,000
There are many events
that you predicted

335
00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,667
that have indeed occurred.

336
00:18:56,667 --> 00:18:59,667
First, that I would like to be
asked to do this kind of film.

337
00:18:59,667 --> 00:19:02,867
Second, that this film
would certainly get made.

338
00:19:02,867 --> 00:19:06,867
Third, your accurate
projections about casting.

339
00:19:06,867 --> 00:19:10,166
-So you helped
with the casting?
-Yeah.

340
00:19:10,166 --> 00:19:11,600
<i>Now, you saw</i> oltergeist 1,
<i>did you?</i>

341
00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:12,867
-Oh, yeah.
-I've seen it a lot.

342
00:19:12,867 --> 00:19:14,000
Okay.

343
00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,667
Did you pick up on anything
from that filming

344
00:19:17,667 --> 00:19:22,066
or what you've learned later
about the real human
skeletons?

345
00:19:22,066 --> 00:19:25,367
Could you find anything
at all within

346
00:19:25,367 --> 00:19:29,266
what they shot here
at the house that could have

347
00:19:29,266 --> 00:19:31,667
initiated a curse?

348
00:19:32,900 --> 00:19:37,166
Well, to me, everything
started when they dug
the hole.

349
00:19:38,667 --> 00:19:40,367
-[Zak] <i>In the backyard?</i>
-[Jill] <i>In the backyard.</i>

350
00:19:40,367 --> 00:19:43,367
<i>And that's what, to me,</i>
<i>that's when I started,</i>

351
00:19:43,367 --> 00:19:45,100
<i>you know, wait a minute.</i>

352
00:19:47,066 --> 00:19:49,300
[screaming]

353
00:19:51,767 --> 00:19:54,367
[Zak] <i>When it was time to film</i>
Poltergeist II,

354
00:19:54,367 --> 00:19:58,767
<i>director Brian Gibson</i>
<i>also wanted to use</i>
<i>human remains.</i>

355
00:19:58,767 --> 00:20:00,166
[Jill]
<i>I had a fight with Brian.</i>

356
00:20:00,166 --> 00:20:03,066
He wanted to use
real skeletons.

357
00:20:03,066 --> 00:20:05,367
And I said, you can't do that.
You can't mess with
the spirits.

358
00:20:05,367 --> 00:20:06,667
You don't understand.

359
00:20:06,667 --> 00:20:08,900
You know, I'm hearing voices
all the time.

360
00:20:08,900 --> 00:20:09,867
Don't do this.

361
00:20:09,867 --> 00:20:11,400
[Zak] <i>You had objection to it.</i>

362
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:12,867
[Jill] <i>Yes.</i>

363
00:20:12,867 --> 00:20:16,000
<i>-And you told the director</i>
<i>not to do that.</i>
-[Jill] <i>Correct, absolutely.</i>

364
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:16,800
<i>Yes.</i>

365
00:20:17,667 --> 00:20:19,266
I just talked to the elder.

366
00:20:19,266 --> 00:20:21,100
I just talked to
the archaeologist

367
00:20:21,100 --> 00:20:25,166
who validated to me that
we are standing on grounds.

368
00:20:26,567 --> 00:20:28,467
Yes, very hallowed ground.

369
00:20:28,467 --> 00:20:30,300
And when you dig into
that soil

370
00:20:30,300 --> 00:20:35,367
and you make a big pit
and you throw human skeletons
in there,

371
00:20:35,367 --> 00:20:38,967
did that aggravate something?

372
00:20:38,967 --> 00:20:41,166
You know the answer to that.
The answer is yes.

373
00:20:41,166 --> 00:20:43,100
-I know, but there's
nobody else.
-If you mess with

374
00:20:43,100 --> 00:20:45,066
-my house, okay?
See what I mean?
-Yeah, yeah.

375
00:20:45,066 --> 00:20:46,300
Yes, absolutely yes.

376
00:20:46,967 --> 00:20:49,300
[thunder rumbling]

377
00:20:51,767 --> 00:20:53,367
Oh, Okay, that's a good start.

378
00:20:53,367 --> 00:20:54,767
-They locked us in.
-Rachel?

379
00:20:54,767 --> 00:20:56,567
-[Rachel] Yeah?
-They locked us out.

380
00:20:57,667 --> 00:20:59,100
They don't want us in.

381
00:21:00,100 --> 00:21:02,400
Oh, no.

382
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,000
[man]
Is the back door still open?

383
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,100
[man speaking]

384
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,500
What? How do you, yeah...

385
00:21:13,100 --> 00:21:14,500
Rachel?

386
00:21:14,500 --> 00:21:16,400
-Oh, my God.
-They could do that, you know?

387
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,266
Rachel, is this on
an automatic lock?

388
00:21:18,266 --> 00:21:20,667
-No, not at all.
-What?

389
00:21:20,667 --> 00:21:23,000
No, this is old school.

390
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,000
So how did it lock
from the inside?

391
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,900
I have no idea.

392
00:21:28,467 --> 00:21:32,100
[Zak] <i>This dead bolt can only</i>
<i>be locked from the inside.</i>

393
00:21:32,100 --> 00:21:33,967
So that does not lock
by itself?

394
00:21:34,667 --> 00:21:36,467
No, there's no way.

395
00:21:36,467 --> 00:21:39,767
[Zak] <i>Was there something here</i>
<i>attempting to keep us out?</i>

396
00:21:40,467 --> 00:21:42,000
Sure you want to move in here?

397
00:21:47,467 --> 00:21:48,867
[eerie music playing]

398
00:21:59,100 --> 00:22:00,066
Hold on one second.

399
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,266
I'm living in here.
I just heard that.

400
00:22:11,266 --> 00:22:14,467
-You just heard that?
-I just heard the voice say
to me, "I'm living in here."

401
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,800
Did somebody just speak?

402
00:22:25,266 --> 00:22:27,700
Who is living in here?

403
00:22:30,166 --> 00:22:34,400
Is somebody speaking to Jill?
Do you want to be heard?

404
00:22:35,700 --> 00:22:38,867
Are you a cast member from
the movie that was filmed
here?

405
00:22:42,567 --> 00:22:45,000
Are you a member of the family
that lives here?

406
00:22:46,066 --> 00:22:49,600
Mmm. Mmm. Mmm.

407
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,667
-Mmm.
-You okay?

408
00:22:52,667 --> 00:22:53,500
Mm-hmm.

409
00:22:55,066 --> 00:22:56,100
Mm-hmm.

410
00:22:56,100 --> 00:22:57,500
-Jill?
-They couldn't talk.

411
00:22:57,500 --> 00:22:59,467
-Really?
-I had to break.

412
00:22:59,467 --> 00:23:02,266
I had to do my little thing.
I couldn't talk.

413
00:23:02,266 --> 00:23:03,433
The answer is yes.

414
00:23:03,433 --> 00:23:05,867
It was one of the family
that owned here,
that died here.

415
00:23:07,300 --> 00:23:10,000
If people don't believe
in something,

416
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,400
then they stay right
where they were.

417
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,266
You understand?
Their spirit stays there.

418
00:23:14,266 --> 00:23:15,900
The body destroys itself.

419
00:23:15,900 --> 00:23:19,367
But the spirit stays
because it doesn't know
where else to go.

420
00:23:19,367 --> 00:23:20,867
-Right.
-Where can it go?

421
00:23:20,867 --> 00:23:21,867
-Really?
-Yes.

422
00:23:21,867 --> 00:23:22,867
He didn't know where to go.

423
00:23:22,867 --> 00:23:24,667
He didn't have any faith
or anything.

424
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:27,266
Now if there's anything.

425
00:23:27,900 --> 00:23:31,767
[recording playing back]

426
00:23:36,667 --> 00:23:38,600
Whoa, what was that?

427
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,367
Listen to that.

428
00:23:40,367 --> 00:23:44,166
[recording playing back]

429
00:23:47,166 --> 00:23:48,166
Die?

430
00:23:53,467 --> 00:23:55,700
[voice speaking]

431
00:24:01,066 --> 00:24:04,100
[Zak]
<i>Could this be the voice of one</i>
<i>of the family members</i>

432
00:24:04,100 --> 00:24:06,867
<i>who died in this home,</i>
<i>reaching out to us?</i>

433
00:24:08,667 --> 00:24:09,600
After you.

434
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,800
<i>I take Jill to what</i>
<i>she believes to be</i>

435
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,800
<i>the source of all</i>
<i>the darkness here.</i>

436
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,166
<i>Do you think that</i>
<i>when they did the scene</i>

437
00:24:21,166 --> 00:24:23,800
with the skeletons
and everything in the ground,

438
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,700
do you think that that could
have angered them?

439
00:24:25,700 --> 00:24:28,567
Oh, I know it did.
I told the director that.

440
00:24:28,567 --> 00:24:31,066
-Really?
-I said, "What are you doing?
What are you?"

441
00:24:31,066 --> 00:24:33,166
He said, well,
I've got to do this.
It's part of the whole thing.

442
00:24:33,166 --> 00:24:35,100
And I said, I said,
you understand

443
00:24:35,100 --> 00:24:37,600
you're messing with
really angry spirits.

444
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,667
They're stuck down
there, okay?

445
00:24:39,667 --> 00:24:43,367
And this is really what caused
a lot of problems.

446
00:24:43,367 --> 00:24:44,567
-Yes.
-Yes.

447
00:24:44,567 --> 00:24:46,900
Yeah, this is what really
bothered me on this.

448
00:24:46,900 --> 00:24:49,667
This was the main thing
that bothered me
of everything.

449
00:24:54,700 --> 00:24:55,634
What's up?

450
00:24:55,634 --> 00:24:57,567
-Got a couple of things
to show you.
-Okay.

451
00:24:58,467 --> 00:25:00,266
Look at these six photos.

452
00:25:00,266 --> 00:25:02,100
-We're feeling something,
right?
-Yeah.

453
00:25:02,100 --> 00:25:04,100
Aaron's just taking photo
after photo.

454
00:25:04,100 --> 00:25:05,867
Now, look at
the last three here.

455
00:25:05,867 --> 00:25:08,100
-There's some weird...
-Blue.

456
00:25:08,100 --> 00:25:12,000
<i>-Purple, blue, uh...</i>
<i>-Mm-hmm, mirror face.</i>

457
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,500
Okay, when you zoom in
on the last one,

458
00:25:14,500 --> 00:25:18,900
it looks like a DNA strand.
It's very, very strange.

459
00:25:18,900 --> 00:25:21,967
Did this have anything
to do with those readings

460
00:25:21,967 --> 00:25:22,934
we were getting?

461
00:25:22,934 --> 00:25:25,266
That's why we're saying,
because that's when...

462
00:25:25,266 --> 00:25:27,667
<i>If you notice, I'm snapping,</i>
<i>snapping, snapping, snapping,</i>

463
00:25:27,667 --> 00:25:29,767
and every time you guys...
Here's the weird thing,

464
00:25:29,767 --> 00:25:32,667
and I say something.
Every time you guys were like,
I feel it.

465
00:25:32,667 --> 00:25:34,867
Like, you go, oh,
it's spiking.

466
00:25:34,867 --> 00:25:37,767
It actually took the picture
at the exact moment.

467
00:25:37,767 --> 00:25:39,800
You know what happened
right directly after this?

468
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,867
You turned the TV on,
we walked outside,
and the deadbolt got locked.

469
00:25:42,867 --> 00:25:45,467
-That's right.
-So it's like, is this...

470
00:25:45,467 --> 00:25:48,066
Is this a family member
that's like, you know,

471
00:25:48,066 --> 00:25:49,467
"Get out of my house?"

472
00:25:49,467 --> 00:25:52,400
[Zak] <i>While these photographs</i>
<i>are interesting,</i>

473
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,000
<i>I'm still not fully convinced</i>
<i>they're paranormal.</i>

474
00:26:00,166 --> 00:26:03,767
-Brian, how you doing?
-So we are outside.

475
00:26:03,767 --> 00:26:05,900
You're a neighbor here.
You've lived here
for a long time.

476
00:26:05,900 --> 00:26:08,400
I've been in Simi since 1971.

477
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,667
You remember them filming
the movie here, right?

478
00:26:12,667 --> 00:26:15,400
I was here in 1981.

479
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,367
Nineteen eighty one?

480
00:26:16,367 --> 00:26:17,233
Yeah. I was a college student

481
00:26:17,233 --> 00:26:19,367
-over at the local college,
-Mmm-hmm.

482
00:26:19,367 --> 00:26:22,066
and I heard that Spielberg
was producing a movie.

483
00:26:22,066 --> 00:26:23,600
So as a film student,

484
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,266
I got my Super 8 camera
came over,

485
00:26:26,266 --> 00:26:27,567
stood across the street

486
00:26:27,567 --> 00:26:29,800
for probably
seven days straight

487
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,800
-while they were filming
at this house.
-Wow.

488
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,467
It was usually from 7:00 p.m.
to 7:00 a.m.

489
00:26:34,467 --> 00:26:37,066
[Zak] <i>Did you meet--</i>
<i>You said you met Spielberg?</i>

490
00:26:37,066 --> 00:26:39,066
I came up here
to the store right here

491
00:26:39,066 --> 00:26:42,600
-and the casket that comes out
onto the station wagon,
-Mmm-hmm.

492
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,567
-they were prepping that.
-Really?

493
00:26:44,567 --> 00:26:47,967
So I stood here
and just looked at it.

494
00:26:47,967 --> 00:26:49,467
And it was just me

495
00:26:49,467 --> 00:26:53,000
-and then out of nowhere
comes Steven Spielberg.
-Really?

496
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,300
And he stands there
and he goes, "Hey,
what's going on?"

497
00:26:55,300 --> 00:26:57,467
And I say, "Hey, I'm
a film student.

498
00:26:57,467 --> 00:26:59,667
Right now, this week
we're studying you."

499
00:26:59,667 --> 00:27:01,100
You're talking
to Steven Spielberg.

500
00:27:01,100 --> 00:27:03,467
Just him and I
right here at the store.

501
00:27:03,467 --> 00:27:04,867
-And the skeleton.
-Wow.

502
00:27:04,867 --> 00:27:08,700
And so I said,
"Yeah, we're studying you
for the week."

503
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,100
And he goes, "Why me?"

504
00:27:10,100 --> 00:27:11,967
And I go, you know,
all the things

505
00:27:11,967 --> 00:27:13,266
-you've already done.
-Yeah.

506
00:27:13,266 --> 00:27:17,200
And he goes, "Well, I have
a new movie that I'm about
to start."

507
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,867
And I go,
"Okay, what's that called?"

508
00:27:18,867 --> 00:27:20,667
And he goes,
"It's a movie called <i>E.T."</i>

509
00:27:20,667 --> 00:27:21,667
Jeez.

510
00:27:21,667 --> 00:27:24,200
So I go and I asked him
what it was about,

511
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,100
and he gave me
a quick synopsis.

512
00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:29,066
-That's crazy.
-And then... and then
we left it at that.

513
00:27:29,066 --> 00:27:31,567
And then he goes,
you know, feel free to stay,

514
00:27:31,567 --> 00:27:33,467
feel free to tape
whatever I want

515
00:27:33,467 --> 00:27:35,700
-to film whatever I want
back then with Super 8.
-Really?

516
00:27:36,867 --> 00:27:42,100
Did you ever witness anything
that seemed strange

517
00:27:42,100 --> 00:27:44,700
on the movie set
of <i>Poltergeist?</i>

518
00:27:45,767 --> 00:27:48,266
The strangest thing I saw

519
00:27:48,266 --> 00:27:50,166
is as soon as
I walked in the house

520
00:27:50,166 --> 00:27:52,900
-and again, I was over--
-You walked in the house?

521
00:27:52,900 --> 00:27:57,567
So as a 18-year-old, I wait
until everybody went to lunch.

522
00:27:57,567 --> 00:27:59,567
And then I walked
into the house.

523
00:27:59,567 --> 00:28:00,467
What did you see?

524
00:28:00,467 --> 00:28:02,000
As soon as I walked
into the house,

525
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,567
I saw a mound of dirt.

526
00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:06,066
[electrical buzzing]

527
00:28:06,066 --> 00:28:08,200
[Zak] <i>Brian takes me</i>
<i>inside the house to show me</i>

528
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,367
<i>where this strange mound</i>
<i>of dirt was located.</i>

529
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,500
I'm gonna say
the dirt was over here.

530
00:28:15,500 --> 00:28:16,967
And it was a mound of dirt.

531
00:28:16,967 --> 00:28:19,000
It was on a piece
of cardboard,

532
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,266
and it was right here.

533
00:28:21,266 --> 00:28:23,767
And I could not understand
why there was dirt

534
00:28:23,767 --> 00:28:27,000
in this people's home.

535
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,266
[Zak] <i>If the Poltergeist curse</i>
<i>originated from the disruption</i>

536
00:28:30,266 --> 00:28:32,567
<i>of sacred earth</i>
<i>in the backyard.</i>

537
00:28:32,567 --> 00:28:35,200
<i>Could bringing</i>
<i>that soil inside</i>

538
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,767
<i>have invited the curse</i>
<i>into this home?</i>

539
00:28:38,467 --> 00:28:40,166
[intense music playing]

540
00:28:41,667 --> 00:28:42,800
[Zak] Roll.

541
00:28:44,066 --> 00:28:46,600
So we're setting
a shot up over here.

542
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,867
And what did you guys see?

543
00:28:50,100 --> 00:28:52,367
Second floor,
the light just got really,

544
00:28:52,367 --> 00:28:53,900
really intensely bright

545
00:28:53,900 --> 00:28:57,600
and then dropped down
to normal light.

546
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,667
And now just dim down to that.

547
00:28:59,667 --> 00:29:02,867
[Zak] This is, like,
literally, the movie is
replicating right now.

548
00:29:02,867 --> 00:29:05,100
'Cause they did that
through those windows.

549
00:29:05,867 --> 00:29:07,100
[Jeff] It got bright.

550
00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:08,800
It was like a bright flash.

551
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,567
I saw it.

552
00:29:10,567 --> 00:29:12,166
[Zak] There's nobody in there,
is there?

553
00:29:12,166 --> 00:29:14,000
No, there's nobody in there.

554
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,066
[Zak] <i>As we review the cameras</i>
<i>that were rolling at the time,</i>

555
00:29:17,066 --> 00:29:19,100
<i>we actually find one</i>

556
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,166
<i>that captured this moment.</i>

557
00:29:25,567 --> 00:29:27,200
[suspenseful music playing]

558
00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:34,166
[Zak] Okay. Right now um...

559
00:29:34,166 --> 00:29:35,266
it's getting late.

560
00:29:35,967 --> 00:29:37,600
This is Tawney.

561
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,066
Tawney, how are you?

562
00:29:39,066 --> 00:29:41,967
-I'm good.
-So tell me about yourself.

563
00:29:41,967 --> 00:29:43,300
You are a psychic medium?

564
00:29:43,300 --> 00:29:45,467
Yes. I'm very familiar
with Simi Valley

565
00:29:45,467 --> 00:29:46,700
and the area as well.

566
00:29:46,700 --> 00:29:49,967
Okay. Have you been
past the house before?

567
00:29:49,967 --> 00:29:51,367
Absolutely. Multiple times.

568
00:29:51,367 --> 00:29:53,967
Have you picked up
anything here before?

569
00:29:53,967 --> 00:29:55,300
Absolutely.

570
00:29:55,300 --> 00:29:57,667
For some reason,
I've always been really drawn

571
00:29:57,667 --> 00:30:00,200
to the room above the garage.

572
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,700
It feels like there's a man
just staring at me.

573
00:30:03,700 --> 00:30:06,000
Every single time I come by

574
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,800
he's just standing
at the window just watching.

575
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,367
[Zak] That is the exact window
that we all just saw

576
00:30:12,367 --> 00:30:15,400
the flash of light
come from in a vacant house.

577
00:30:17,266 --> 00:30:19,767
Do you normally get feelings?

578
00:30:19,767 --> 00:30:22,266
[Tawney] Yes, immediately
want to go upstairs.

579
00:30:22,266 --> 00:30:24,300
-[Zak] Okay, we'll follow you.
-[Tawney] Okay.

580
00:30:33,100 --> 00:30:36,767
It's weird. The energy in here
feels like young kids.

581
00:30:38,300 --> 00:30:40,266
It's actually
kind of overwhelming.

582
00:30:40,266 --> 00:30:41,667
Notice that I'm going
towards the door.

583
00:30:41,667 --> 00:30:44,567
It's like...it's almost like,
"Get out, get out."

584
00:30:44,567 --> 00:30:45,767
It's a lot of 'em.

585
00:30:52,567 --> 00:30:56,000
Yeah. This is the space
right between these rooms.

586
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,066
-I don't think
this light was--
-[man] It was not on.

587
00:30:58,066 --> 00:30:59,967
-[Tawney] Oh, no.
-[man] I can promise you
it was not on.

588
00:30:59,967 --> 00:31:02,367
[Zak] Let's turn it off.
Let's see if it turns back on.

589
00:31:03,667 --> 00:31:04,900
What's that, Tawney?

590
00:31:04,900 --> 00:31:07,100
Um... these two rooms here

591
00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:10,667
-is where I feel like
that man is here.
-Yeah.

592
00:31:10,667 --> 00:31:11,867
He's very--

593
00:31:11,867 --> 00:31:15,266
It's a very...
depressing but also
intimidating presence.

594
00:31:15,266 --> 00:31:16,900
Like this is my property.

595
00:31:16,900 --> 00:31:18,200
This is my room.

596
00:31:27,166 --> 00:31:28,967
I keep hearing,
"I died. I died."

597
00:31:30,700 --> 00:31:32,767
I think that's what
that EVP said.

598
00:31:33,767 --> 00:31:35,100
"Died."

599
00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:36,667
"I died. I died."
I keep hearing that.

600
00:31:36,667 --> 00:31:37,967
That EVP that we got?

601
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:41,834
[man]

602
00:31:42,567 --> 00:31:44,567
And it's very
territorial, too.

603
00:31:44,567 --> 00:31:49,266
And so I'm very curious
to ask the owner if she's
felt so far...

604
00:31:49,266 --> 00:31:50,567
[Zak] She's only slept here
one night.

605
00:31:50,567 --> 00:31:53,400
Oh Interesting.
Very territorial.

606
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,000
It's almost like I want to
let her know like,

607
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,767
"Hey, just FYI
this is my house. "

608
00:31:57,767 --> 00:31:59,500
But she said
when she first came in

609
00:31:59,500 --> 00:32:01,100
through here
during inspection,

610
00:32:01,100 --> 00:32:03,200
she felt something
pull her down.

611
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,233
Oh.

612
00:32:04,233 --> 00:32:07,100
I felt like I was being
kind of like, pulled down.

613
00:32:07,100 --> 00:32:09,266
I was nauseous, light headed.

614
00:32:09,767 --> 00:32:11,066
Yeah. I'm not even--

615
00:32:11,066 --> 00:32:13,567
I actually feel like
he's definitely not
the only spirit here.

616
00:32:13,567 --> 00:32:15,400
-[Zak] Mmm-hmm.
-It's a conglomeration.

617
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,266
He's tied to this
particular area,

618
00:32:18,266 --> 00:32:20,667
which is interesting,
like finally getting up here.

619
00:32:20,667 --> 00:32:22,266
But also downstairs,

620
00:32:22,266 --> 00:32:23,567
I feel like
there's another male

621
00:32:23,567 --> 00:32:25,767
and then possibly
even a woman.

622
00:32:25,767 --> 00:32:29,467
So there has been
two male deaths here
and one woman.

623
00:32:29,467 --> 00:32:31,767
-Interesting. Okay.
-And only like I said,

624
00:32:31,767 --> 00:32:32,967
only we would know that.

625
00:32:32,967 --> 00:32:35,166
[Zak] <i>It is shocking</i>
<i>that Tawney picked up</i>

626
00:32:35,166 --> 00:32:39,567
<i>on the deaths of two men</i>
<i>and one woman in this house.</i>

627
00:32:39,567 --> 00:32:43,467
<i>This was privileged</i>
<i>information given only to us</i>

628
00:32:43,467 --> 00:32:46,667
<i>by the very private</i>
<i>former owners.</i>

629
00:32:50,066 --> 00:32:51,667
[Jay] So I've been doing
some research.

630
00:32:51,667 --> 00:32:53,667
So, like you were saying,
the main thing is,

631
00:32:53,667 --> 00:32:55,367
why was all this happening?

632
00:32:55,367 --> 00:32:56,400
Is it the curse?

633
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:57,767
-Is it--
-What's the source?

634
00:32:57,767 --> 00:32:59,467
That's the biggest question.

635
00:33:01,967 --> 00:33:05,166
First of all, the Chumash
believed that the universe
itself was divided

636
00:33:05,166 --> 00:33:07,367
into three different
planes of existence.

637
00:33:07,367 --> 00:33:09,100
The first world that is above

638
00:33:09,100 --> 00:33:10,867
belongs to
supernatural beings.

639
00:33:10,867 --> 00:33:14,367
-The cloud, the sky,
the sky beings, yes.
-[Jay] Exactly.

640
00:33:14,367 --> 00:33:17,000
-And the middle ground
as humans, is us,
-[Zak] Us. Right.

641
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,367
and the below world
is inhabited by monsters

642
00:33:20,367 --> 00:33:23,066
which enter
the human world after dark.

643
00:33:24,166 --> 00:33:26,266
So the monsters
of the world below

644
00:33:26,266 --> 00:33:29,266
were thought to be malevolent
supernatural beings

645
00:33:29,266 --> 00:33:32,500
that always, always pose
a threat to humans.

646
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,100
Whoa!

647
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:36,667
[Jay]
<i>They were often described</i>
<i>as grotesque,</i>

648
00:33:36,667 --> 00:33:39,567
nocturnal and misshapen.

649
00:33:39,567 --> 00:33:42,166
So they were like
the evil of the evil

650
00:33:42,166 --> 00:33:45,867
and that they are constantly
a threat to human life.

651
00:33:47,066 --> 00:33:49,367
[Zak] <i>So much death</i>
<i>and suffering,</i>

652
00:33:49,367 --> 00:33:52,300
<i>all linked to one film.</i>

653
00:33:52,300 --> 00:33:57,266
<i>The</i> oltergeist <i>curse</i>
<i>has tormented so many</i>
<i>for 42 years.</i>

654
00:33:57,266 --> 00:33:58,300
[door creaking]

655
00:33:58,300 --> 00:34:00,100
<i>What is in store for us</i>

656
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,300
<i>as we prepare for lockdown?</i>

657
00:34:03,300 --> 00:34:04,400
[electrical buzzing]

658
00:34:06,867 --> 00:34:09,600
All right.
It is now time to begin

659
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,567
our lockdown investigation

660
00:34:12,567 --> 00:34:15,567
at a very iconic location,

661
00:34:15,567 --> 00:34:19,900
the original
<i>Poltergeist</i> ouse.

662
00:34:19,900 --> 00:34:23,000
And we have already
documented some very

663
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,667
compelling activity
and evidence.

664
00:34:25,667 --> 00:34:28,266
And we're very
shocked by that.

665
00:34:28,266 --> 00:34:33,166
So we need to dig deeper
and find out if that hole

666
00:34:33,166 --> 00:34:37,000
that was dug in the backyard
and placed with real skeletons

667
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,367
might have opened
this house up

668
00:34:38,367 --> 00:34:42,100
to some type of ancient curse
or something?

669
00:34:42,100 --> 00:34:43,567
We do know that
there have been

670
00:34:43,567 --> 00:34:46,266
three deaths in this house
from the last family.

671
00:34:46,266 --> 00:34:48,367
And I did not
bring this from home.

672
00:34:48,367 --> 00:34:49,800
This is not my doll.

673
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,300
This doll I do own

674
00:34:51,300 --> 00:34:53,200
as part of my
museum collection.

675
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,000
This doll was owned
and played with

676
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,900
by Heather O'Rourke
from the <i>Poltergeist</i> ilms.

677
00:35:00,900 --> 00:35:02,767
This is a certificate
of authenticity

678
00:35:02,767 --> 00:35:05,600
signed by her mother,
Kathleen O'Rourke.

679
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,066
It came directly
from her mother's estate.

680
00:35:08,066 --> 00:35:10,100
We're dealing
with a little child's death,

681
00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:12,400
and the first thing
I want to say

682
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,600
is how brilliant and talented
she was as an actress.

683
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:16,634
She was incredible.

684
00:35:16,634 --> 00:35:19,000
At a very young age,
she could even read a script

685
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,800
which baffled the directors.

686
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,700
So by no means
are we saying this curse

687
00:35:23,700 --> 00:35:26,266
had anything to do
with the deaths of hers

688
00:35:26,266 --> 00:35:29,867
or any of the other actors
and actresses in the films.

689
00:35:29,867 --> 00:35:31,867
But did the curse
have something else

690
00:35:31,867 --> 00:35:32,967
to do with the activity

691
00:35:32,967 --> 00:35:34,800
that is being
experienced today

692
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,300
and possibly
with this previous family?

693
00:35:37,900 --> 00:35:39,266
So what I'm gonna do is

694
00:35:39,266 --> 00:35:41,667
I'm gonna take this doll

695
00:35:41,667 --> 00:35:44,266
and place it upstairs
in what would have been

696
00:35:44,266 --> 00:35:46,400
Heather O'Rourke's bedroom
in the film.

697
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,567
And Jay, can you also tell us
what those are over there?

698
00:35:49,567 --> 00:35:52,200
So what we have are
basically baby monitors.

699
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,667
They are things that,
you know, you can
get anywhere.

700
00:35:54,667 --> 00:35:57,100
Every home in America
probably has a set of these

701
00:35:57,100 --> 00:35:58,133
at some point.

702
00:35:58,133 --> 00:36:00,767
What we wanted to do is
leave one on and have one

703
00:36:00,767 --> 00:36:02,400
here at nerve center,
so that way we can just have

704
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,667
a constant open line
of communication.

705
00:36:04,667 --> 00:36:06,767
So at any time
we can hear them,

706
00:36:06,767 --> 00:36:07,800
we can communicate.

707
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,166
We can talk back
and just have this open,

708
00:36:10,166 --> 00:36:12,800
-basically
general communication.
-Communication.

709
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,266
Earlier, we had
a psychic medium Tawney
go in that room

710
00:36:16,266 --> 00:36:17,567
and start telling us

711
00:36:17,567 --> 00:36:20,700
that she was sensing
a child's spirit.

712
00:36:20,700 --> 00:36:24,300
It's weird. The energy in here
feels like young kid's.

713
00:36:25,567 --> 00:36:27,567
And before we go upstairs,
I'm gonna let Billy

714
00:36:27,567 --> 00:36:30,867
talk about the experiment
that we currently have running

715
00:36:30,867 --> 00:36:33,000
near the <i>Poltergeist</i> V.

716
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,066
In this room,

717
00:36:34,066 --> 00:36:37,266
we have set up our isolated
video loop experiment,

718
00:36:37,266 --> 00:36:39,800
which is a camera

719
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,367
that is projecting
what it is seeing
and recording itself.

720
00:36:43,367 --> 00:36:45,467
Creating this
isolated video loop.

721
00:36:45,467 --> 00:36:46,667
Which sometimes,

722
00:36:46,667 --> 00:36:48,667
as an ITC experiment,

723
00:36:48,667 --> 00:36:50,700
can elicit
some sort of results

724
00:36:50,700 --> 00:36:52,867
in the pattern
that you see here.

725
00:36:52,867 --> 00:36:55,467
So we will be watching that
from nerve

726
00:36:55,467 --> 00:36:57,600
as well as the static
on the TV.

727
00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,533
We also have,

728
00:36:59,533 --> 00:37:01,667
see here I dangled
a microphone right here

729
00:37:01,667 --> 00:37:04,367
that's going to be pointing
right at the speaker
of the static.

730
00:37:04,367 --> 00:37:07,367
And then I'll be listening in
with headphones from
nerve center,

731
00:37:07,367 --> 00:37:09,066
and we'll see
if anything comes through

732
00:37:09,066 --> 00:37:11,166
the speakers
of the actual TV itself.

733
00:37:11,166 --> 00:37:12,266
[Zak] Just like the movie.

734
00:37:13,767 --> 00:37:15,367
Now it's crazy
because in the movie,

735
00:37:15,367 --> 00:37:17,867
this is where she was
with her hands on the TV.

736
00:37:17,867 --> 00:37:20,467
But before that,
she started hearing
the spirits

737
00:37:20,467 --> 00:37:23,000
talking through
the speaker of the TV.

738
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,400
She was saying,
"I don't know. I don't know."

739
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,367
So we weren't able to hear
what voices she was hearing.

740
00:37:29,367 --> 00:37:34,400
So in real life, these devices
can transmit spirit voices

741
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,600
through Instrumental
Trans-Communication.

742
00:37:42,567 --> 00:37:48,800
We are in a very interesting
moment in time right now.

743
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,567
We are deeply connected
right now to the movie
<i>Poltergeist.</i>

744
00:37:54,767 --> 00:37:58,166
We are in the home
where they filmed
a lot of the movie.

745
00:37:58,166 --> 00:38:02,100
We did receive some
interesting activity as well

746
00:38:02,100 --> 00:38:04,767
right here
at the bottom of these stairs.

747
00:38:04,767 --> 00:38:08,867
We don't know
what spirits are here.

748
00:38:08,867 --> 00:38:13,467
We don't know if we're able
to connect with any of those

749
00:38:13,467 --> 00:38:15,800
who were in the movie
that are no longer here.

750
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,767
But if we do,

751
00:38:17,767 --> 00:38:20,367
we wanna be here for you.

752
00:38:20,367 --> 00:38:23,500
And we know that you love
being in front of the camera.

753
00:38:25,500 --> 00:38:27,000
[suspenseful music playing]

754
00:38:28,166 --> 00:38:29,166
Okay.

755
00:38:40,467 --> 00:38:43,500
I'm gonna put this doll here
so that we could see it

756
00:38:43,500 --> 00:38:45,467
from that camera over there.

757
00:38:45,467 --> 00:38:48,066
This is the baby monitor
that we're gonna listen to.

758
00:38:49,166 --> 00:38:50,166
Okay, ready?

759
00:38:54,767 --> 00:38:57,367
<i>With everything set</i>
<i>and recording,</i>

760
00:38:57,367 --> 00:38:59,367
<i>we now head back</i>
<i>to nerve center</i>

761
00:38:59,367 --> 00:39:00,667
<i>to begin monitoring.</i>

762
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,367
Okay, so right now, Jay and I
are monitoring the house.

763
00:39:06,367 --> 00:39:08,300
We're listening to the house.

764
00:39:08,300 --> 00:39:10,967
This is where
we have a motion sensor

765
00:39:10,967 --> 00:39:13,567
which is connected
to my watch.

766
00:39:13,567 --> 00:39:15,900
You'll notice we have them
in every room.

767
00:39:15,900 --> 00:39:18,367
One on the bed.
We have one on the stairs.

768
00:39:18,367 --> 00:39:19,900
We have one here.

769
00:39:19,900 --> 00:39:22,967
So if anything
alarms on my watch,

770
00:39:22,967 --> 00:39:25,867
we'll be able to see
what number sensor it is.

771
00:39:25,867 --> 00:39:29,266
And that will tell us
which room has the motion.

772
00:39:29,266 --> 00:39:31,600
And I can use
this monitor to speak.

773
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,266
We don't know exactly
who or what,

774
00:39:35,266 --> 00:39:37,467
or if anybody's in this house.

775
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,700
<i>But we know</i>
<i>there's a lot of memories</i>

776
00:39:40,700 --> 00:39:42,900
<i>and we know</i>
<i>there was three deaths.</i>

777
00:39:44,266 --> 00:39:48,767
<i>Can anybody from the movie</i>
<i>talk to us</i>

778
00:39:48,767 --> 00:39:52,467
<i>and replicate the scenes</i>
<i>that you did in the film?</i>

779
00:39:53,700 --> 00:39:55,500
<i>Do you remember?</i>

780
00:39:55,500 --> 00:39:57,700
<i>You were talking</i>
<i>to the spirits</i>

781
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,300
<i>and now it is reversed.</i>

782
00:40:02,367 --> 00:40:03,467
<i>You are the spirit.</i>

783
00:40:03,467 --> 00:40:05,100
<i>Can you talk to us?</i>

784
00:40:08,467 --> 00:40:10,266
<i>Can you give us a message?</i>

785
00:40:11,567 --> 00:40:13,467
<i>We are your friends.</i>

786
00:40:14,467 --> 00:40:15,867
We have love for you.

787
00:40:15,867 --> 00:40:17,500
We have respect for you.

788
00:40:19,767 --> 00:40:21,567
<i>Carol Anne.</i>

789
00:40:21,567 --> 00:40:23,266
<i>Are you there, Carol Anne.</i>

790
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,333
[eerie tone] <i>They're here!</i>

791
00:40:30,767 --> 00:40:32,867
<i>Can you move</i>
<i>the door in the room?</i>

792
00:40:38,567 --> 00:40:40,100
[suspenseful music playing]

793
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,266
I just heard something
on the baby monitor.

794
00:41:00,700 --> 00:41:02,166
[intense music playing]

795
00:41:06,467 --> 00:41:07,767
Can we hear you?

796
00:41:07,767 --> 00:41:08,467
[man] Zak!

797
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,066
Did you hear it say "Zak"?

798
00:41:11,066 --> 00:41:15,867
[Zak] Open the doorways,
open the gateways,
open everything.

799
00:41:15,867 --> 00:41:17,967
Let our two worlds collide.

800
00:41:17,967 --> 00:41:19,000
[crashes]

801
00:41:20,700 --> 00:41:22,567
[man] Hold on, bro.

802
00:41:22,567 --> 00:41:25,567
We are in a studio here
in Las Vegas.

803
00:41:25,567 --> 00:41:27,266
One, two, three.

804
00:41:27,266 --> 00:41:29,000
Oh, my God!

805
00:41:32,100 --> 00:41:33,567
[suspenseful music playing]

806
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,567
I just heard something
on the baby monitor.

807
00:41:57,266 --> 00:41:58,266
[indistinct noise]

808
00:41:59,667 --> 00:42:00,800
What was that?

809
00:42:21,900 --> 00:42:23,000
[mouthing]

810
00:42:23,700 --> 00:42:26,600
[Zak] <i>I want everyone</i>
<i>to turn the volume up</i>

811
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,166
<i>and listen closely</i>
<i>to what sounds like</i>

812
00:42:29,166 --> 00:42:32,300
<i>a faint little girl's voice</i>
<i>that's being captured</i>

813
00:42:32,300 --> 00:42:35,467
<i>on the baby monitor</i>
<i>and the X cam audio.</i>

814
00:42:47,867 --> 00:42:50,667
I put this speaker to my ear

815
00:42:50,667 --> 00:42:53,567
and I started hearing
a high pitched noise

816
00:42:53,567 --> 00:42:55,867
like a little girl voice
or something.

817
00:42:55,867 --> 00:42:58,367
That's why I had to have
everybody be quiet,

818
00:42:58,367 --> 00:43:01,467
because the only way I can
capture this is through this.

819
00:43:06,700 --> 00:43:07,867
[bleep]

820
00:43:08,567 --> 00:43:09,600
[bleep]

821
00:43:13,700 --> 00:43:16,667
So right now
we're hearing noises.

822
00:43:16,667 --> 00:43:18,567
<i>I quickly grabbed the ovilus</i>

823
00:43:18,567 --> 00:43:20,667
<i>to see if we can get</i>
<i>any information</i>

824
00:43:20,667 --> 00:43:22,166
<i>regarding these noises.</i>

825
00:43:23,667 --> 00:43:25,266
Who's making these noises?

826
00:43:26,567 --> 00:43:28,367
Is there somebody
inside the house?

827
00:43:30,100 --> 00:43:33,266
How are these spirits
making these noises?

828
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,100
Their arms!

829
00:43:36,767 --> 00:43:38,000
Oh, my God!

830
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,300
[man] Are you serious?

831
00:43:39,300 --> 00:43:41,700
I just said, "How are you
making these sounds?"

832
00:43:41,700 --> 00:43:43,667
And it said, "Their arms."

833
00:43:43,667 --> 00:43:44,500
Look at this.

834
00:43:44,500 --> 00:43:47,000
-Yes.
-Literally says, "Their arms."

835
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,467
[Zak] <i>At this exact moment,</i>
<i>our full spectrum camera</i>

836
00:43:50,467 --> 00:43:51,900
<i>rolling in the family room</i>

837
00:43:51,900 --> 00:43:55,300
<i>captures this strange</i>
<i>misty anomaly.</i>

838
00:44:10,667 --> 00:44:13,166
Can you give us the name
of whose arms

839
00:44:13,166 --> 00:44:15,266
are being used
to make the noises?

840
00:44:17,266 --> 00:44:19,066
Chris. Aggression.

841
00:44:20,266 --> 00:44:21,767
You just asked the name.
That's a name.

842
00:44:21,767 --> 00:44:23,066
Who's this? Chris.

843
00:44:23,066 --> 00:44:24,767
The name said
Chris Aggression.

844
00:44:24,767 --> 00:44:27,667
-[Aaron] Dude, that's a name.
-[Zak] Wrong.

845
00:44:27,667 --> 00:44:28,500
It says "Wrong."

846
00:44:28,500 --> 00:44:30,100
After you just said that.

847
00:44:30,100 --> 00:44:31,600
[Aaron] No way.

848
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:32,600
[Zak] Look.

849
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,567
<i>As we start gearing up</i>
<i>to go into the house,</i>

850
00:44:35,567 --> 00:44:41,000
<i>we hear this strange breath</i>
<i>or brushing sound come through</i>
<i>the baby monitor.</i>

851
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,467
Not only that, but there's
a meter, Tri field meter
right here.

852
00:44:44,667 --> 00:44:45,367
[breathing sound]

853
00:44:45,700 --> 00:44:46,967
Whoa!

854
00:44:46,967 --> 00:44:48,967
There's a meter,
Tri field meter right here.

855
00:44:52,667 --> 00:44:53,500
[all exclaim]

856
00:44:54,900 --> 00:44:56,100
[Zak] Something just
came through

857
00:44:56,100 --> 00:44:57,967
the speaker of that
baby monitor.

858
00:44:57,967 --> 00:45:00,166
Like that is creepy.

859
00:45:00,166 --> 00:45:02,100
-[man] Very.
-[Zak] We all heard it.

860
00:45:02,100 --> 00:45:03,767
We're all four down here.

861
00:45:04,767 --> 00:45:07,100
[Zak] <i>Aaron, Billy and I</i>
<i>now enter the home</i>

862
00:45:07,100 --> 00:45:09,500
<i>and set up a UV laser grid</i>

863
00:45:09,500 --> 00:45:12,266
<i>in the kitchen,</i>
<i>along with a tri-field meter.</i>

864
00:45:14,266 --> 00:45:15,767
Right there.

865
00:45:15,767 --> 00:45:18,567
<i>Back in the family room,</i>
<i>we capture possibly</i>

866
00:45:18,567 --> 00:45:21,000
<i>the same anomaly as before.</i>

867
00:45:35,266 --> 00:45:36,500
[Zak] Is there somebody
in here?

868
00:45:39,467 --> 00:45:40,700
[man1] Whoa! See that?

869
00:45:40,700 --> 00:45:42,667
[man2] What? Why did it spike
like that?

870
00:45:42,667 --> 00:45:47,867
One point three
all of a sudden
from 0.2 to 1.4, 1.5?

871
00:45:47,867 --> 00:45:49,967
Doesn't make any sense.

872
00:45:49,967 --> 00:45:53,200
[Zak] <i>Suddenly, Aaron</i>
<i>quickly walks away from us.</i>

873
00:45:54,667 --> 00:45:56,100
[man] You okay, Aaron?

874
00:45:56,867 --> 00:45:58,667
-Aaron?
-[Aaron] That was weird, bro.

875
00:45:59,767 --> 00:46:01,467
I just ran over here,

876
00:46:01,467 --> 00:46:03,567
and I wasn't really
thinking about it.

877
00:46:03,567 --> 00:46:05,100
[Billy] Why did you
just take off?

878
00:46:05,100 --> 00:46:06,166
I don't know.

879
00:46:06,166 --> 00:46:08,700
I just was standing here
and something made me just--

880
00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:09,767
And I stopped.

881
00:46:09,767 --> 00:46:11,967
I'm like, "Why am I--
Why did I do that?"

882
00:46:11,967 --> 00:46:14,266
Like, it was weird.

883
00:46:14,266 --> 00:46:17,467
[Zak] <i>In this moment, Billy</i>
<i>heads back to the kitchen</i>

884
00:46:17,467 --> 00:46:20,767
<i>and is adjusting the settings</i>
<i>on our digital recorder.</i>

885
00:46:20,767 --> 00:46:23,367
<i>He has no idea</i>
<i>that his camera captures</i>

886
00:46:23,367 --> 00:46:25,166
<i>something out this</i>
<i>kitchen window</i>

887
00:46:25,166 --> 00:46:27,467
<i>that's facing the backyard.</i>

888
00:46:27,467 --> 00:46:29,700
<i>We will reveal</i>
<i>this visual evidence</i>

889
00:46:29,700 --> 00:46:32,467
<i>in an upcoming</i>
<i>in depth analysis</i>

890
00:46:32,467 --> 00:46:34,266
<i>with the owner</i>
<i>of the house, Rachel.</i>

891
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:41,700
[suspenseful music playing]

892
00:46:41,700 --> 00:46:42,700
[Zak] I...

893
00:46:43,500 --> 00:46:44,967
I just, I don't feel good.

894
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,400
Open the doorways!
Open the gateways!

895
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,467
Open everything!

896
00:46:54,467 --> 00:46:56,467
Let our two worlds collide!

897
00:46:57,700 --> 00:47:00,800
I know members
of the cast are gone,

898
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,066
and a lot of people
blame a curse.

899
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:07,700
Is there truth to that?

900
00:47:19,567 --> 00:47:21,867
So right now
we just came upstairs

901
00:47:21,867 --> 00:47:26,266
and we were hearing noises
up here from the nerve center.

902
00:47:32,767 --> 00:47:34,800
Jay, are you still
hearing any sounds?

903
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,367
Nothing else.

904
00:47:48,066 --> 00:47:49,233
Whoa, that was weird.

905
00:47:51,266 --> 00:47:53,500
I feel like she's gonna start
crying out of nowhere.

906
00:47:57,700 --> 00:47:58,867
Can I there alone?

907
00:47:58,867 --> 00:48:00,467
Yes. Yes.

908
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,300
[Zak] <i>Aaron now begins using</i>
<i>the Polterpod ITC device.</i>

909
00:48:18,367 --> 00:48:19,567
[device buzzing]

910
00:48:27,166 --> 00:48:28,367
Who wants to talk to us?

911
00:48:28,367 --> 00:48:29,367
What's your name?

912
00:48:33,066 --> 00:48:34,867
[man speaking indistinctly]

913
00:48:34,867 --> 00:48:38,066
[Zak] <i>We capture an</i>
<i>unintelligible male</i>
<i>voice here.</i>

914
00:48:38,066 --> 00:48:42,000
<i>Could this possibly be</i>
<i>speaking in a native</i>
<i>American language?</i>

915
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,200
Who wants to talk to us?

916
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:44,200
What's your name?

917
00:48:47,867 --> 00:48:49,433
[male speaking indistinctly]

918
00:48:51,867 --> 00:48:56,767
[Zak] <i>I now activate</i>
<i>the APF-D processor</i>
<i>along with the SB7 Pro.</i>

919
00:48:58,266 --> 00:48:59,700
[static]

920
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,400
[Zak] It just flatlined.

921
00:49:16,367 --> 00:49:17,900
Why did it just flatline?

922
00:49:17,900 --> 00:49:19,867
[Aaron] I don't know.

923
00:49:19,867 --> 00:49:23,100
[Zak] Something weird
is happening to this
equipment right now.

924
00:49:23,667 --> 00:49:25,767
It just completely flatlined.

925
00:49:27,300 --> 00:49:28,266
And look.

926
00:49:28,266 --> 00:49:29,300
[device beeps]

927
00:49:29,867 --> 00:49:30,867
[Aaron] What was that?

928
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,100
Was that the baby monitor?

929
00:49:34,100 --> 00:49:35,100
[Billy] Yeah.

930
00:49:39,367 --> 00:49:40,967
[Zak] Can you see
if this is sweeping?

931
00:49:40,967 --> 00:49:42,000
[Billy] You all right, Aaron?

932
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,000
Aaron.

933
00:49:51,867 --> 00:49:52,867
Dude.

934
00:49:54,367 --> 00:49:56,367
So I just put a mint
in my mouth.

935
00:49:56,367 --> 00:50:00,000
When that started flatlining,
all I could taste was dirt.

936
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,367
And I was basically felt like
I was getting like,

937
00:50:02,367 --> 00:50:03,500
I was being buried.

938
00:50:03,500 --> 00:50:04,800
It was the weirdest thing.

939
00:50:05,467 --> 00:50:07,000
[suspenseful music playing]

940
00:50:10,266 --> 00:50:12,200
[static]

941
00:50:14,667 --> 00:50:16,367
[Zak] Hi, can you please
talk to us?

942
00:50:23,700 --> 00:50:24,800
What's your name?

943
00:50:30,667 --> 00:50:31,700
[bleep] Nothing, dude.

944
00:50:32,967 --> 00:50:35,000
Try it with my speakers.

945
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,467
[Zak] It is frustrating.

946
00:50:37,667 --> 00:50:41,467
This is just the part
that gets me really upset

947
00:50:41,467 --> 00:50:44,066
is when we feel things
and we're hearing things.

948
00:50:44,066 --> 00:50:46,500
We're using this right now,
this ITC device,

949
00:50:46,500 --> 00:50:49,200
then nobody
wants to talk to us.

950
00:50:52,667 --> 00:50:54,500
Let me hold it.
Just let me hold it.

951
00:50:57,967 --> 00:50:59,367
[girl's faint voice]

952
00:50:59,367 --> 00:51:01,200
[gasps] Did you see
a little girl?

953
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:02,767
[Billy] Dude.

954
00:51:02,767 --> 00:51:05,467
[Zak] <i>I want to make</i>
<i>a very important note.</i>

955
00:51:05,467 --> 00:51:08,667
<i>Aside from what we believe</i>
<i>to be a Native American voice,</i>

956
00:51:10,066 --> 00:51:13,100
<i>we have only captured</i>
<i>these faint girl voices</i>

957
00:51:13,100 --> 00:51:15,333
<i>earlier from the baby monitor.</i>

958
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,500
<i>And right now we capture</i>
<i>another faint girl voice</i>

959
00:51:21,500 --> 00:51:23,467
<i>through the APF-D processor.</i>

960
00:51:30,166 --> 00:51:31,233
Did you see a little girl?

961
00:51:31,233 --> 00:51:33,767
[Billy] Dude, why do I
keep hearing a little girl?

962
00:51:33,767 --> 00:51:35,300
[Aaron] I hear it.

963
00:51:35,300 --> 00:51:36,867
[Zak] Is there
a little girl there?

964
00:51:40,900 --> 00:51:42,467
After 35 minutes

965
00:51:42,467 --> 00:51:43,467
we're getting--

966
00:51:44,166 --> 00:51:45,800
[Zak gasps] Daddy?

967
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,300
<i>Listen, as my question</i>
<i>is answered.</i>

968
00:51:48,300 --> 00:51:50,667
Is there a little girl there?

969
00:51:50,667 --> 00:51:51,767
[male voice]

970
00:51:51,767 --> 00:51:54,867
<i>Then another spirit</i>
<i>tells us the girl left.</i>

971
00:51:55,166 --> 00:51:56,266
[male voice]

972
00:51:56,266 --> 00:51:59,600
<i>Then a little girl</i>
<i>comes back and calls me daddy.</i>

973
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:00,667
[girl voice]

974
00:52:00,667 --> 00:52:02,367
[gasps] Daddy?

975
00:52:02,367 --> 00:52:04,400
Is there a little girl there?

976
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:05,634
[male voice]

977
00:52:08,100 --> 00:52:10,200
After 35 minutes,
we're getting--

978
00:52:10,967 --> 00:52:12,266
[gasps] Daddy?

979
00:52:17,567 --> 00:52:20,100
Okay. We're out here
at nerve center right now.

980
00:52:20,100 --> 00:52:21,600
We're just
switching things up.

981
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,367
I don't feel good.

982
00:52:23,367 --> 00:52:26,467
I don't feel right right now.

983
00:52:26,467 --> 00:52:27,600
I don't know why.

984
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,700
I'm just saying
I don't know why.

985
00:52:32,166 --> 00:52:35,800
<i>We heard somebody in there</i>
<i>in the kids room</i>

986
00:52:36,567 --> 00:52:38,367
<i>and we heard your voice</i>

987
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:40,800
and you saw our reaction.

988
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,667
I'm sorry if I'm not
in the best of moods
right now.

989
00:52:43,667 --> 00:52:45,266
I'm just not feeling
that great.

990
00:52:45,266 --> 00:52:47,100
I think physically.

991
00:52:47,100 --> 00:52:49,900
This happens
when you get older, you know?

992
00:52:49,900 --> 00:52:53,700
You just don't feel good
for stupid reasons.

993
00:52:53,700 --> 00:52:56,500
And we're getting older,
you know, I'm getting older.

994
00:52:56,500 --> 00:52:58,367
I've been doing this
for a long time,

995
00:52:58,367 --> 00:53:01,367
and sometimes things hurt,
you know,

996
00:53:01,367 --> 00:53:04,500
and things affect
my...my asthma

997
00:53:04,500 --> 00:53:06,266
and stuff like that, you know?

998
00:53:06,266 --> 00:53:09,900
And everybody's gonna
make fun of me for this.

999
00:53:09,900 --> 00:53:11,767
Are you having
a mental breakdown?

1000
00:53:13,166 --> 00:53:14,500
[all laughing]

1001
00:53:15,867 --> 00:53:16,800
[Aaron speaking]

1002
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,000
You're having
a mental breakdown.

1003
00:53:19,867 --> 00:53:21,166
[Zak] Maybe I am.

1004
00:53:22,066 --> 00:53:23,166
[Aaron] You picked
the right moment.

1005
00:53:23,166 --> 00:53:24,166
That was great.

1006
00:53:24,667 --> 00:53:26,367
That was on TV.

1007
00:53:27,500 --> 00:53:29,000
[Aaron] I'm getting older.
Goddamnit!

1008
00:53:30,367 --> 00:53:31,500
[laughing]

1009
00:53:32,166 --> 00:53:34,433
[speaking indistinctly]

1010
00:53:36,900 --> 00:53:39,000
Sometimes we're the only ones
that listen.

1011
00:53:40,500 --> 00:53:42,767
[Zak] <i>We don't know if you</i>
<i>lived in the house before,</i>

1012
00:53:42,767 --> 00:53:44,066
<i>or you're connected</i>
<i>to this movie</i>

1013
00:53:44,066 --> 00:53:47,100
<i>that we all watched,</i>
<i>and we're scared of.</i>

1014
00:53:47,100 --> 00:53:51,266
<i>I had the clown that was</i>
<i>in the bedroom with</i>
<i>the little boy and...</i>

1015
00:53:51,266 --> 00:53:54,000
I'm a huge fan of this movie.

1016
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,500
<i>And if you can hear me,</i>
<i>let's have fun together.</i>

1017
00:53:57,500 --> 00:53:59,266
<i>Guys, look,</i>
<i>we're alive right now,</i>

1018
00:53:59,266 --> 00:54:02,500
<i>but, you know, we know</i>
<i>we're going to be on</i>
<i>the other side someday too.</i>

1019
00:54:04,066 --> 00:54:05,300
<i>Can you move the doll?</i>

1020
00:54:11,100 --> 00:54:12,467
Move the [bleep] doll.

1021
00:54:19,100 --> 00:54:22,567
<i>Billy wants to now use</i>
<i>the frequency generator,</i>

1022
00:54:22,567 --> 00:54:25,967
<i>which uses a physical coil</i>
<i>to emit frequencies</i>

1023
00:54:25,967 --> 00:54:27,867
<i>that can stimulate emotions.</i>

1024
00:54:27,867 --> 00:54:30,500
<i>As we are getting ready to</i>
<i>activate the device,</i>

1025
00:54:30,500 --> 00:54:35,166
<i>watch how the isolated</i>
<i>video loop begins moving</i>
<i>and undulating.</i>

1026
00:54:35,166 --> 00:54:38,166
<i>Then this large black mass</i>
<i>moves through it,</i>

1027
00:54:38,166 --> 00:54:41,166
<i>causing the central image</i>
<i>to also move.</i>

1028
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,667
All right, what I want
to do now is shoot at

1029
00:54:55,667 --> 00:55:00,200
a frequency of 150 hertz,
and anger is said to have

1030
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,800
a vibrational frequency
of 150 hertz,

1031
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,066
which is associated
with contraction.

1032
00:55:06,066 --> 00:55:09,867
So we're going to emit
that vibrational frequency

1033
00:55:09,867 --> 00:55:12,200
through the glass table
just like Jay said.

1034
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,400
The glass will also resonate
that frequency

1035
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,266
at a larger vibration.

1036
00:55:17,266 --> 00:55:19,867
And we're going to see
if it can affect anything

1037
00:55:19,867 --> 00:55:24,200
or stimulate anything
from portals to manifestations

1038
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,400
to our ITC experiments.

1039
00:55:28,266 --> 00:55:30,467
[low electrical hum playing]

1040
00:55:34,266 --> 00:55:38,667
<i>Now watch as what we believe</i>
<i>to be a long black arm</i>

1041
00:55:38,667 --> 00:55:41,900
<i>reaches up into</i>
<i>the central loop image</i>

1042
00:55:41,900 --> 00:55:47,100
<i>and appears to extract</i>
<i>the yellow part from the top.</i>

1043
00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:50,266
<i>And like Aaron says,</i>
<i>the yolk of an egg.</i>

1044
00:56:01,767 --> 00:56:02,800
What is that?

1045
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:04,467
-Whoa.
-What is that?

1046
00:56:04,467 --> 00:56:07,066
-[Zak] Whoa. What the hell?
-[Aaron] Oh, my God.

1047
00:56:07,066 --> 00:56:08,867
It's like an egg dripping
its yolk

1048
00:56:08,867 --> 00:56:11,000
down the [bleep] stairs
or something.

1049
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,266
[Billy] It's gone.

1050
00:56:12,266 --> 00:56:13,967
-Did you see that?
-I saw that.

1051
00:56:13,967 --> 00:56:16,867
There was a black thing
that came up here and, like,

1052
00:56:16,867 --> 00:56:20,433
touched it.
And then the arm went away.

1053
00:56:22,900 --> 00:56:25,967
I don't know why, guys.
I'd have to go upstairs
to that room again.

1054
00:56:38,367 --> 00:56:39,967
[strange sounds playing]

1055
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,100
What is that?

1056
00:56:43,100 --> 00:56:45,667
<i>As I set my camera down</i>
<i>in the kids' room,</i>

1057
00:56:45,667 --> 00:56:48,467
<i>I hear the strangest sound</i>
<i>I've ever heard.</i>

1058
00:56:48,467 --> 00:56:51,767
<i>Jay also hears it from Nerve.</i>
<i>Listen to this.</i>

1059
00:56:56,667 --> 00:56:59,266
[strange sounds playing]

1060
00:57:01,667 --> 00:57:04,200
<i>When we replay the sound,</i>
<i>it's as if</i>

1061
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:08,200
<i>an interdimensional door opens</i>
<i>for like a quick moment.</i>

1062
00:57:08,767 --> 00:57:12,800
[strange sounds playing]

1063
00:57:14,667 --> 00:57:15,667
What is that?

1064
00:57:15,667 --> 00:57:18,000
<i>Downstairs, Aaron and Billy</i>
<i>don't hear it,</i>

1065
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,467
<i>but their equipment starts</i>
<i>acting strange.</i>

1066
00:57:21,467 --> 00:57:22,400
[Billy] Hey.

1067
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,400
Oh, Aaron, why is that
UV light doing that?

1068
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:25,967
Hey, what was that UV light?

1069
00:57:25,967 --> 00:57:28,567
Your UV light just flashed on
and flashed off.

1070
00:57:28,567 --> 00:57:30,367
-The one in front of me?
-Yes.

1071
00:57:30,367 --> 00:57:33,100
And it was, hey, you know
what's going on right now?

1072
00:57:33,100 --> 00:57:35,734
-Hey. What was that noise?
-Yeah.

1073
00:57:35,734 --> 00:57:37,166
Dude, we didn't hear it
down here.

1074
00:57:37,166 --> 00:57:39,000
Cole, you come here right now.

1075
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,567
When I walked up there,
it was just like, you know,

1076
00:57:41,567 --> 00:57:43,200
calm, quiet, everything.

1077
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,867
And it was like for like
five seconds,

1078
00:57:46,867 --> 00:57:49,767
<i>it was like I heard</i>
<i>like chattering.</i>

1079
00:57:55,567 --> 00:57:59,767
It was like a quick terror
in the spirit world.

1080
00:57:59,767 --> 00:58:02,967
It was like they just
peeled it open real quick

1081
00:58:02,967 --> 00:58:05,734
-and let me hear something.
-After we did
the God frequency.

1082
00:58:05,734 --> 00:58:07,567
-Yeah, it was after
the God frequency.
-Yeah.

1083
00:58:07,567 --> 00:58:10,567
Something else happened
that you don't know.
Neither one of you know this.

1084
00:58:11,767 --> 00:58:13,500
This light is off right now,
right?

1085
00:58:13,500 --> 00:58:15,000
Yeah, you said it kept
going on and on.

1086
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,266
<i>It turned on,</i>
<i>and then it turned off.</i>

1087
00:58:17,266 --> 00:58:18,467
And I looked up,
and I thought,

1088
00:58:18,467 --> 00:58:20,367
why is Aaron touching
the light?
But you weren't.

1089
00:58:20,367 --> 00:58:21,600
You were just standing
back here.

1090
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,266
I'm like, it reacted.
Oh, it's giving me
the chills, dude.

1091
00:58:24,266 --> 00:58:26,100
It was reacting
to that frequency,

1092
00:58:26,100 --> 00:58:27,567
and it turned that light on.

1093
00:58:27,567 --> 00:58:30,066
And I looked up,
expecting you,
yeah, like that.

1094
00:58:30,066 --> 00:58:32,867
But look, it doesn't have
an effect on that.

1095
00:58:32,867 --> 00:58:35,734
-It's when you did that...
-It's when we did
that frequency,

1096
00:58:35,734 --> 00:58:39,000
that specific frequency
of 936 Hertz

1097
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,767
<i>and it changed the frequency.</i>

1098
00:58:40,767 --> 00:58:43,600
It added a decimal point,
it changed it on the machine.

1099
00:58:44,900 --> 00:58:49,400
[Zak]
<i>I decide to attach our SV7</i>
<i>spirit box directly</i>

1100
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:53,266
<i>to the TV screen to see</i>
<i>if the electromagnetic energy</i>

1101
00:58:53,266 --> 00:58:57,166
<i>from the old TV can amplify</i>
<i>the spirit's energy source.</i>

1102
00:58:57,867 --> 00:58:59,900
Let's just make sure this...

1103
00:59:00,667 --> 00:59:03,667
-[TV static blaring]
-[bleep]

1104
00:59:08,867 --> 00:59:11,667
<i>The TV volume suddenly blares,</i>

1105
00:59:11,667 --> 00:59:15,066
<i>scaring us all and knocking me</i>
<i>back onto the carpet.</i>

1106
00:59:15,667 --> 00:59:17,967
-[TV static blaring]
-[bleep]

1107
00:59:22,667 --> 00:59:23,767
Can we hear you?

1108
00:59:28,900 --> 00:59:30,567
-Hello?
-Hello?

1109
00:59:30,567 --> 00:59:32,467
-Hello?
-Hello?

1110
00:59:33,667 --> 00:59:35,500
Can we hear you?

1111
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,000
[voice speaking]

1112
00:59:41,367 --> 00:59:44,667
-Hello? Hello?
-Hello?

1113
00:59:46,467 --> 00:59:48,367
Can you talk to us?

1114
00:59:50,767 --> 00:59:52,900
-[voice] <i>Zak.</i>
-Zak!

1115
00:59:53,567 --> 00:59:55,000
Did you hear it say Zak?

1116
00:59:57,467 --> 00:59:59,867
It said Zak! Plain as day!

1117
00:59:59,867 --> 01:00:01,767
There was nothing
that said hello?

1118
01:00:01,767 --> 01:00:04,266
Clearly said Zak!

1119
01:00:05,867 --> 01:00:07,300
Can you talk to us?

1120
01:00:13,667 --> 01:00:14,767
Zak?

1121
01:00:15,467 --> 01:00:17,767
Yes, that is me.

1122
01:00:19,266 --> 01:00:21,266
Can you tell me your name?

1123
01:00:22,300 --> 01:00:25,100
What are you doing in
this house?

1124
01:00:27,567 --> 01:00:30,867
Tell me the name of the movie
that was filmed here.

1125
01:00:32,967 --> 01:00:35,800
<i>-Important.</i>
-Important?

1126
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,100
-Important.
-Important.

1127
01:00:38,100 --> 01:00:40,567
It might be a message
that's trying to come through.

1128
01:00:40,567 --> 01:00:43,367
Tell me the name of the movie
that was filmed here.

1129
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:50,834
Important?

1130
01:00:50,834 --> 01:00:53,600
[Billy] It might be a message
that's trying to come through.

1131
01:00:55,500 --> 01:00:57,667
[voice speaking indistinctly]

1132
01:00:57,667 --> 01:01:00,066
<i>We capture this</i>
<i>very creepy voice,</i>

1133
01:01:00,066 --> 01:01:02,200
<i>but don't understand</i>
<i>the language.</i>

1134
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,567
<i>Could this also be</i>
<i>Native American?</i>

1135
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:07,400
[voice speaking indistinctly]

1136
01:01:19,467 --> 01:01:21,200
Where are you right now?

1137
01:01:23,667 --> 01:01:25,867
What was that flash?
Give it again, everyone.

1138
01:01:25,867 --> 01:01:27,867
-What was that flash?
-Wait, hey, hey.

1139
01:01:27,867 --> 01:01:29,066
You said,
where are you right now?

1140
01:01:29,066 --> 01:01:31,567
And the light turned on
for one split second.

1141
01:01:31,567 --> 01:01:32,800
-Flash.
-It flashed.

1142
01:01:38,967 --> 01:01:42,567
<i>-Hello.</i>
-Hello again.

1143
01:01:42,567 --> 01:01:45,000
It was like
an older lady's voice.

1144
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,266
[Zak]
<i>Who are these spirits that</i>
<i>are suddenly greeting us?</i>

1145
01:01:48,266 --> 01:01:51,166
<i>We are getting</i>
<i>crystal clear hellos</i>

1146
01:01:51,166 --> 01:01:54,767
<i>coming through the TV</i>
<i>into our ITC device.</i>

1147
01:01:55,667 --> 01:01:56,867
[female voice speaking]

1148
01:01:59,166 --> 01:02:01,300
-Hello.
-Hello.

1149
01:02:01,300 --> 01:02:04,266
-Again.
-That was like
an older lady's voice.

1150
01:02:04,266 --> 01:02:07,266
[Zak]
<i>I know this sounds crazy,</i>
<i>but the scene in the movie</i>

1151
01:02:07,266 --> 01:02:10,000
<i>is our reality right now.</i>

1152
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,266
<i>With no further communication,</i>
<i>Billy and I head back</i>

1153
01:02:13,266 --> 01:02:16,166
<i>to nerve center to start</i>
<i>wrapping up the investigation.</i>

1154
01:02:16,166 --> 01:02:20,567
Okay, so right now,
Jay and Aaron are out back.

1155
01:02:20,567 --> 01:02:24,800
<i>They are doing a ceremony,</i>
<i>an offering</i>

1156
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:26,900
to the Native Americans.

1157
01:02:26,900 --> 01:02:31,100
Through the Chumash spirits
and any other Native Americans

1158
01:02:31,100 --> 01:02:32,533
that were here first.

1159
01:02:32,533 --> 01:02:38,300
[Zak] <i>This was their land,</i>
<i>and before we end</i>
<i>our investigation...</i>

1160
01:02:38,300 --> 01:02:42,867
We want to give an offering
of peace and respect.

1161
01:02:42,867 --> 01:02:46,300
A lot of time has gone by,
and a lot of good people
have been lost.

1162
01:02:46,300 --> 01:02:49,367
Please lift any kind of curse,
and I hope you can find peace

1163
01:02:49,367 --> 01:02:51,166
and move on.

1164
01:02:51,166 --> 01:02:54,567
And this investigation
was absolutely...

1165
01:02:55,500 --> 01:02:56,767
<i>incredible.</i>

1166
01:02:56,767 --> 01:02:58,000
Um...

1167
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:01,767
Oh. Oh, my God.

1168
01:03:01,767 --> 01:03:04,767
[bleep]
Did you just see that?

1169
01:03:04,767 --> 01:03:08,567
-What the [bleep]?
-Hold on, let me roll
this camera.

1170
01:03:08,567 --> 01:03:10,066
Are you kidding me right now?

1171
01:03:14,867 --> 01:03:18,767
-Oh, my God, dude. [bleep]
-Shh. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

1172
01:03:19,767 --> 01:03:21,967
-Oh, my, you saw that, right?
-Yeah, I watched it.

1173
01:03:21,967 --> 01:03:24,367
-So we both saw that
on screen, right?
-Yup.

1174
01:03:24,367 --> 01:03:27,467
-Right?
-Yeah, and that camera right
there for sure caught it.

1175
01:03:27,467 --> 01:03:31,667
This investigation
was absolutely incredible.

1176
01:03:32,734 --> 01:03:33,767
<i>Um...</i>

1177
01:03:40,266 --> 01:03:42,100
My heart is racing right now.

1178
01:03:42,100 --> 01:03:44,400
That was [bleep] awesome,
dude.

1179
01:03:50,734 --> 01:03:51,867
-Is that camera on?
-Yes.

1180
01:03:51,867 --> 01:03:52,867
-It is?
-Yes.

1181
01:03:52,867 --> 01:03:55,000
-We have two angles left.
-Oh, great.

1182
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,867
Holy [bleep].
We saw that at the same time.

1183
01:03:57,867 --> 01:03:59,367
We were wrapping up...

1184
01:03:59,367 --> 01:04:02,467
-I wasn't expecting it.
-And the doll just fell over.

1185
01:04:03,467 --> 01:04:05,066
-Hey.
-[Aaron] What?

1186
01:04:05,066 --> 01:04:07,467
-The doll just [bleep]...
-I swear to God,
come up...

1187
01:04:07,467 --> 01:04:10,100
-Are you serious?
-Me and Billy were at nerve.

1188
01:04:10,100 --> 01:04:12,400
-Come here.
-[Aaron] Coming.

1189
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,367
[Zak] <i>We did not have</i>
<i>high expectations</i>

1190
01:04:14,367 --> 01:04:16,567
<i>for this house being</i>
<i>this active.</i>

1191
01:04:16,567 --> 01:04:21,000
<i>And we also capture</i>
<i>the doll falling on</i>
<i>this X camera as well.</i>

1192
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,166
And this investigation
was absolutely

1193
01:04:24,166 --> 01:04:26,166
<i>incredible.</i>

1194
01:04:26,166 --> 01:04:27,367
<i>Um...</i>

1195
01:04:27,567 --> 01:04:29,000
Oh.

1196
01:04:29,734 --> 01:04:32,266
<i>...incredible. Um...</i>

1197
01:04:32,266 --> 01:04:33,400
Oh.

1198
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:37,100
<i>This was captured on</i>
<i>two separate cameras.</i>

1199
01:04:37,100 --> 01:04:39,767
<i>And throughout the night,</i>
<i>I asked the spirits</i>

1200
01:04:39,767 --> 01:04:43,000
<i>multiple times to move</i>
<i>this doll.</i>

1201
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,200
Can you move the doll
in the room?

1202
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,800
[on speaker]
<i>Can you move the doll?</i>

1203
01:04:50,266 --> 01:04:51,467
Move the [bleep] doll.

1204
01:04:53,367 --> 01:04:56,467
-...incredible. Um...
-Oh...

1205
01:04:56,467 --> 01:04:59,400
My God.

1206
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,400
[bleep]
Did you just see that?

1207
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,300
What the [bleep]?

1208
01:05:04,300 --> 01:05:07,667
Hold on,
let me roll the camera.
Are you kidding me right now?

1209
01:05:08,934 --> 01:05:11,500
[Zak] <i>With our investigation</i>
<i>complete,</i>

1210
01:05:11,500 --> 01:05:15,467
<i>we head back to Vegas to do</i>
<i>a full analysis of</i>
<i>our evidence.</i>

1211
01:05:21,266 --> 01:05:23,834
I know. This looks strange.

1212
01:05:23,834 --> 01:05:26,300
You just saw us
in night vision,

1213
01:05:26,300 --> 01:05:28,867
and now we're actually stuck
in the television set.

1214
01:05:28,867 --> 01:05:30,667
<i>Lockdown ended really weird</i>
<i>for us.</i>

1215
01:05:30,667 --> 01:05:32,734
Here we are,
and we don't know
how to get out.

1216
01:05:32,734 --> 01:05:36,266
I just see a screen.
Carol Anne, are you here?

1217
01:05:36,266 --> 01:05:37,467
Can you help us?

1218
01:05:38,100 --> 01:05:39,367
We want to get out.

1219
01:05:44,166 --> 01:05:47,367
Ladies and gentlemen,
I did not know what to expect.

1220
01:05:47,367 --> 01:05:50,100
We went into
this investigation

1221
01:05:50,100 --> 01:05:53,200
very skeptical
of an actual haunting
because the house

1222
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,300
is based upon
a fictionalized movie

1223
01:05:55,300 --> 01:05:58,100
dealing with fictional ghosts.

1224
01:05:58,100 --> 01:06:00,934
However, knowing that there
was some truth

1225
01:06:00,934 --> 01:06:03,867
to that movie's storyline
and the backstory,

1226
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,867
of these Native American
grounds.

1227
01:06:06,867 --> 01:06:11,367
And then us validating that
with elders of the Chumash

1228
01:06:11,367 --> 01:06:16,367
<i>made us realize, wow,</i>
<i>this curse could be</i>

1229
01:06:16,367 --> 01:06:17,600
very real.

1230
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,867
<i>And once we started digging</i>
<i>into the history of the house,</i>

1231
01:06:20,867 --> 01:06:23,667
<i>the family that lived there,</i>
<i>the three deaths,</i>

1232
01:06:23,667 --> 01:06:25,834
what's going on with
the current owner,

1233
01:06:25,834 --> 01:06:30,000
I don't think any of us
expected the sensation

1234
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,667
that we felt when
we walked inside

1235
01:06:32,667 --> 01:06:33,967
<i>this house.</i>

1236
01:06:35,166 --> 01:06:39,400
The activity started
and it never ended.

1237
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:43,100
<i>The scientific evidence</i>
<i>that we documented,</i>

1238
01:06:43,100 --> 01:06:45,967
the EMF readings,
the anomalies,

1239
01:06:45,967 --> 01:06:50,266
the visual,
the poltergeist activity,

1240
01:06:50,266 --> 01:06:54,266
the doll that you just saw,

1241
01:06:54,266 --> 01:06:56,667
it fell by itself

1242
01:06:56,667 --> 01:06:58,600
after it was sitting there

1243
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:00,300
all night.

1244
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:03,467
...incredible. Um...

1245
01:07:03,467 --> 01:07:07,266
Oh, my God.

1246
01:07:07,266 --> 01:07:10,266
The voices, the intelligence.

1247
01:07:11,100 --> 01:07:12,767
What are we dealing with?

1248
01:07:12,767 --> 01:07:15,467
We are just as shocked
as you are.

1249
01:07:16,834 --> 01:07:20,467
And we are flying back Jill,

1250
01:07:20,467 --> 01:07:22,667
<i>the psychic medium advisor</i>

1251
01:07:22,667 --> 01:07:25,867
<i>who worked with the director</i>
<i>on the</i> oltergeist <i>films.</i>

1252
01:07:25,867 --> 01:07:28,467
<i>She has something she wants</i>
<i>to show us,</i>

1253
01:07:28,467 --> 01:07:33,166
something she captured
while she visited us
for her interview.

1254
01:07:33,166 --> 01:07:37,567
But I also have something that
I wanna show her.

1255
01:07:39,567 --> 01:07:41,967
-Jill.
-Yes, Zak.

1256
01:07:41,967 --> 01:07:44,266
Considering the movie,
where does it feel like
we're at?

1257
01:07:44,266 --> 01:07:45,867
-Inside the TV?
-Yeah.

1258
01:07:45,867 --> 01:07:47,667
-Oh, that's cool.
-I know you're here.

1259
01:07:47,667 --> 01:07:50,400
I know you flew back here
because there's something

1260
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,266
that you want to show us.

1261
01:07:52,266 --> 01:07:54,767
Yes. I really want everybody
to see this.

1262
01:07:54,767 --> 01:07:56,500
My daughter took this photo.

1263
01:07:56,500 --> 01:07:59,600
She took a picture
of me standing there
pointing to the TV.

1264
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:03,100
How can that TV reflect
or go through,

1265
01:08:03,100 --> 01:08:05,967
transistently through me,
the screen of the television?

1266
01:08:05,967 --> 01:08:08,867
[Zak] I don't know if it's
just me, but do you see
that face right there?

1267
01:08:08,867 --> 01:08:11,934
[Jill] <i>Yes. Yeah, they said</i>
<i>that. They said they saw</i>
<i>the face, too.</i>

1268
01:08:11,934 --> 01:08:14,166
-[Zak] <i>This is weird.</i>
<i>-You're not the only one</i>
<i>that's seen this.</i>

1269
01:08:14,166 --> 01:08:15,667
-Hang on a second. Billy?
-Yes.

1270
01:08:15,667 --> 01:08:19,600
Didn't I send you, like,
10 or 12 photos

1271
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,967
-of this same exact position?
-Yep.

1272
01:08:21,967 --> 01:08:23,300
-Is that on your phone?
-Yeah, you want to see them?

1273
01:08:23,300 --> 01:08:24,867
Come here for a second,
and let me see those.

1274
01:08:24,867 --> 01:08:26,266
Let me compare this
real quick.

1275
01:08:26,266 --> 01:08:28,767
-So this is what
I don't understand.
-Okay.

1276
01:08:28,767 --> 01:08:31,767
-You and I posed in
the same exact position.
-Right.

1277
01:08:31,767 --> 01:08:33,467
-And also took photos.
-Right.

1278
01:08:33,467 --> 01:08:35,567
<i>And Billy was moving around</i>
<i>a little bit.</i>

1279
01:08:35,567 --> 01:08:36,634
Different angles.

1280
01:08:36,634 --> 01:08:37,900
[Billy]
Trying to get different,
you know, angles.

1281
01:08:37,900 --> 01:08:41,166
[Zak]
But you don't ever see that
in any other pictures.

1282
01:08:41,166 --> 01:08:42,734
-Why is that?
-That is weird.

1283
01:08:42,734 --> 01:08:45,567
[Jill]
Because I'm the one that asked
for the spirit to come to me.

1284
01:08:45,567 --> 01:08:48,667
[Zak] <i>This is yet another</i>
<i>interesting photo that,</i>

1285
01:08:48,667 --> 01:08:51,867
<i>through a series of other</i>
<i>photos taken in the same</i>

1286
01:08:51,867 --> 01:08:55,767
<i>exact position, we had</i>
<i>a hard time to debunk.</i>

1287
01:08:55,767 --> 01:08:59,100
<i>If this is paranormal,</i>
<i>could this be a message</i>
<i>from beyond?</i>

1288
01:08:59,100 --> 01:09:02,300
<i>And is this the chosen</i>
<i>communication device?</i>

1289
01:09:04,166 --> 01:09:07,567
<i>But now, ladies and gentlemen,</i>
<i>comes the time</i>

1290
01:09:07,567 --> 01:09:09,867
<i>that I present</i>
<i>my special piece</i>

1291
01:09:09,867 --> 01:09:13,166
<i>of film history,</i>
<i>a piece of film history</i>

1292
01:09:13,166 --> 01:09:16,367
<i>that Jill has</i>
<i>a personal connection to.</i>

1293
01:09:16,367 --> 01:09:20,867
Okay, so the TV was
the focal point in the film.

1294
01:09:20,867 --> 01:09:24,066
-Absolutely.
-But there was another object

1295
01:09:24,066 --> 01:09:27,100
that was a terrifying item

1296
01:09:27,100 --> 01:09:30,200
for the film,
an item that was possessed.

1297
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:34,166
And with that said,
I have something that I...

1298
01:09:34,166 --> 01:09:35,767
-want to show you.
-Okay.

1299
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:41,400
Jill, follow me.
Keep your eyes covered.

1300
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:43,000
-They're covered.
-And keep them closed.

1301
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:46,066
-They're closed.
They're closed.
-So walk with me.

1302
01:09:46,066 --> 01:09:48,600
We're going to walk
right here, okay?

1303
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:50,166
I'm going to move back.

1304
01:09:50,166 --> 01:09:52,500
On the count of three,
we're going to open
your eyes, okay?

1305
01:09:52,500 --> 01:09:56,367
-Okay.
-One, two, three.

1306
01:09:56,367 --> 01:09:58,667
Oh, my God!

1307
01:10:04,667 --> 01:10:06,600
Oh, my God.

1308
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,066
[Zak] This was used in
all their big scenes.

1309
01:10:09,066 --> 01:10:12,734
I acquired that
from Planet Hollywood here
in Las Vegas.

1310
01:10:12,734 --> 01:10:15,066
-I had it on display, I think,
for a good 20 years.
-Wow.

1311
01:10:19,667 --> 01:10:22,567
-The spirit is real.
-What spirit?

1312
01:10:22,567 --> 01:10:26,166
Inside this clown, the spirit
can get in and out.

1313
01:10:26,667 --> 01:10:28,734
Oh, my God. You're real.

1314
01:10:29,734 --> 01:10:32,467
-You're detecting a spirit
in the doll?
-Yes.

1315
01:10:32,934 --> 01:10:34,266
Are you really bad?

1316
01:10:34,266 --> 01:10:38,667
Now I'm hearing him say,
I was told to act bad,
to be bad.

1317
01:10:38,667 --> 01:10:41,867
-[Zak]
Who's telling you to act bad?
-The spirit, it's in there.

1318
01:10:41,867 --> 01:10:44,266
It's not the material.

1319
01:10:44,266 --> 01:10:48,667
The spirit's inside is around
and all around the material.

1320
01:10:48,667 --> 01:10:52,400
I can almost, I can see like
a little bit of an aura
around.

1321
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,200
Just here up, not the legs,
but just here up.

1322
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:58,000
And I'm seeing,
and it's talking to me.

1323
01:10:58,000 --> 01:10:59,100
Oh, my God.

1324
01:11:00,166 --> 01:11:02,166
Oh, my God, you're real.

1325
01:11:02,166 --> 01:11:05,033
[Zak]
Do you think that <i>Poltergeist</i>
was cursed?

1326
01:11:05,033 --> 01:11:08,367
-It had curses.
-Could objects from the film,

1327
01:11:08,367 --> 01:11:10,867
particularly the clown,
which is probably

1328
01:11:10,867 --> 01:11:14,567
the scariest part of
<i>Poltergeist,</i> ould artifacts,

1329
01:11:14,567 --> 01:11:19,367
props from the film,
could they have absorbed

1330
01:11:19,367 --> 01:11:23,266
pieces or residual traces

1331
01:11:23,266 --> 01:11:25,367
of that curse or the spirits

1332
01:11:25,367 --> 01:11:27,033
from the people
that played in the film?

1333
01:11:27,033 --> 01:11:29,867
Because you said
when you first saw it,
you had a big reaction.

1334
01:11:29,867 --> 01:11:31,600
And you said there was
a spirit inside of it.

1335
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:36,300
Why would you think something
like this would be a vessel
for a spirit?

1336
01:11:36,300 --> 01:11:40,033
Because that was his purpose.
His purpose was to be scary.

1337
01:11:40,033 --> 01:11:42,467
Interesting to me it called
itself an actor.

1338
01:11:42,467 --> 01:11:45,500
[Zak] <i>We find it extremely</i>
<i>interesting that Jill presents</i>

1339
01:11:45,500 --> 01:11:50,367
<i>the idea that an actor</i>
<i>from the film is attached</i>
<i>to the doll.</i>

1340
01:11:52,834 --> 01:11:54,367
<i>I wish we knew which one.</i>

1341
01:11:59,500 --> 01:12:02,400
<i>We now head to meet the owner</i>
<i>of the</i> oltergeist <i>house,</i>

1342
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,667
<i>Rachel, to analyze</i>
<i>our findings with her.</i>

1343
01:12:07,033 --> 01:12:10,667
Rachel, we didn't know what
to expect going into

1344
01:12:10,667 --> 01:12:12,200
this investigation.

1345
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,000
Is this curse real?

1346
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:17,367
And we thought it was
very important for you
to come back

1347
01:12:17,367 --> 01:12:21,066
and see what we captured
inside the house you now own.

1348
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:23,367
Billy, take it away.

1349
01:12:23,367 --> 01:12:28,300
When we were
in this room here and we were
using the XLS camera,

1350
01:12:28,300 --> 01:12:31,166
this appeared over top of Zak.

1351
01:12:31,166 --> 01:12:34,367
[Zak] It's free floating.
You see it's nothing
behind it.

1352
01:12:34,367 --> 01:12:37,266
Now it's putting its hand
over my head.

1353
01:12:37,266 --> 01:12:40,967
It's hovering over the TV,
and then it vanishes.

1354
01:12:40,967 --> 01:12:42,567
-Just like that.
-[Billy] And that was it.

1355
01:12:42,567 --> 01:12:44,233
It was just gone.

1356
01:12:46,667 --> 01:12:49,266
-That TV is an older
vintage TV.
-It is, yeah.

1357
01:12:49,266 --> 01:12:51,500
So it bleeds a lot of EMF,
okay?

1358
01:12:51,500 --> 01:12:54,266
-Which provides
for the spirits.
-Yeah.

1359
01:12:54,266 --> 01:12:56,367
Zak, were you touching
the TV at this point?

1360
01:12:56,367 --> 01:12:57,600
-You were, right?
-I believe so.

1361
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,066
Is it reaching to touch you
to touch the TV?

1362
01:13:00,066 --> 01:13:03,166
Because you were feeling
the static and the energy
from the TV.

1363
01:13:07,967 --> 01:13:09,834
-Let's move to the next one.
-[Billy] All right.

1364
01:13:09,834 --> 01:13:11,467
We're looking at
a full spectrum camera.

1365
01:13:11,467 --> 01:13:14,100
This camera sees into
the ultraviolet spectrum

1366
01:13:14,100 --> 01:13:16,567
as well as visible light
and infrared.

1367
01:13:16,567 --> 01:13:18,133
<i>It captured a mist.</i>

1368
01:13:20,567 --> 01:13:24,300
It's a weird shape.
That is not any type
of flying insect.

1369
01:13:24,300 --> 01:13:25,867
<i>That is not a dust particle.</i>

1370
01:13:25,867 --> 01:13:26,834
<i>-No.</i>
<i>-No.</i>

1371
01:13:26,834 --> 01:13:30,100
It grows in size as it goes up
into the air.

1372
01:13:34,467 --> 01:13:36,567
-Wait a minute, Billy,
do me a favor.
-Yeah.

1373
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:38,367
Go frame by frame.

1374
01:13:39,300 --> 01:13:41,467
Keep going. Stop.

1375
01:13:41,467 --> 01:13:44,667
-I don't know if that's
just [bleep].
-There's light there.

1376
01:13:44,667 --> 01:13:47,934
<i>Rachel is pointing to</i>
<i>the same interesting attribute</i>

1377
01:13:47,934 --> 01:13:52,367
<i>of the mist anomaly</i>
<i>that caught my eye</i>
<i>during this review.</i>

1378
01:13:52,367 --> 01:13:55,600
<i>It appears as though there</i>
<i>are tiny dots of illumination</i>

1379
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,066
<i>within the slightly</i>
<i>larger mist form.</i>

1380
01:14:00,066 --> 01:14:02,166
What's wild is it's coming out
of the ground.

1381
01:14:02,166 --> 01:14:04,000
And what do we know
about the ground?

1382
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,266
That backs up the theory
that all this is coming
from the ground.

1383
01:14:07,266 --> 01:14:09,667
-Right there.
-Oh, [bleep],
I didn't even think of that.

1384
01:14:09,667 --> 01:14:12,266
-Yeah.
-It's literally right there
in the floor.

1385
01:14:12,266 --> 01:14:13,767
-The whole house
is on the ground.
-Yeah.

1386
01:14:13,767 --> 01:14:15,934
So this is interesting.
Let's move on to
the next piece.

1387
01:14:15,934 --> 01:14:17,367
[Billy] Okay.

1388
01:14:17,367 --> 01:14:20,567
-This right here is...
-This one is messing with
my head.

1389
01:14:20,567 --> 01:14:21,667
[Zak] This is weird.
Go ahead, Billy.

1390
01:14:21,667 --> 01:14:23,500
I can't figure out
what this is.

1391
01:14:23,500 --> 01:14:27,400
In the backyard,
there's no light contamination
at all.

1392
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:29,367
-Correct. Okay.
-Let me just play this.

1393
01:14:29,367 --> 01:14:31,266
[Zak] Watch very closely.

1394
01:14:33,734 --> 01:14:35,600
<i>See something there</i>
<i>and then a light there.</i>

1395
01:14:37,266 --> 01:14:39,367
<i>See something there,</i>
<i>and then a light.</i>

1396
01:14:39,367 --> 01:14:42,266
<i>Watch the bottom, boom,</i>
<i>and then the light.</i>

1397
01:14:42,266 --> 01:14:45,000
-This is glass, right?
-Yes, it's all glass.

1398
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:48,266
-Then why wouldn't we see
the light here?
-Exactly.

1399
01:14:48,266 --> 01:14:50,567
-And it only starts here.
-Right.

1400
01:14:50,567 --> 01:14:53,567
But that's a very clearly
defined light going down.

1401
01:14:53,567 --> 01:14:55,967
[Billy] The light is what's
driving me nuts.

1402
01:14:55,967 --> 01:14:59,567
[Zak] <i>There are no roads</i>
<i>or any public views whatsoever</i>

1403
01:14:59,567 --> 01:15:00,767
<i>in the backyard.</i>

1404
01:15:02,667 --> 01:15:05,667
<i>This is not a car</i>
<i>or any explainable source.</i>

1405
01:15:09,767 --> 01:15:10,967
All right, next.

1406
01:15:10,967 --> 01:15:14,066
Now we're in the kids' room,
and we're using the Polterpod.

1407
01:15:14,567 --> 01:15:16,367
[static]

1408
01:15:20,166 --> 01:15:21,834
[voice speaking indistinctly
on device]

1409
01:15:23,467 --> 01:15:25,867
-Do you hear that?
-Yeah, but what is it?

1410
01:15:25,867 --> 01:15:28,500
-We don't know.
-Can you make it out?

1411
01:15:28,500 --> 01:15:33,166
No, but what I will say
is when we were using
the Polterpod in there,

1412
01:15:33,166 --> 01:15:36,166
Aaron was using it
for how long before
this happened?

1413
01:15:36,166 --> 01:15:39,066
-30 minutes.
-And there was nothing
that whole time.

1414
01:15:39,066 --> 01:15:41,967
Not a speck of a single voice.

1415
01:15:41,967 --> 01:15:43,967
Absolutely nothing.

1416
01:15:43,967 --> 01:15:47,500
And then all of a sudden,
this crystal clear voice

1417
01:15:47,500 --> 01:15:49,467
comes out of nowhere
and says something

1418
01:15:49,467 --> 01:15:51,667
that I think is
Native American.

1419
01:15:52,166 --> 01:15:54,500
[speaking indistinctly]

1420
01:15:56,967 --> 01:15:59,166
-That gives you chills,
doesn't it?
-It does.

1421
01:15:59,166 --> 01:16:02,033
So we tried and tried
and tried.

1422
01:16:02,033 --> 01:16:06,667
If anybody recognizes
this voice from any culture,

1423
01:16:06,667 --> 01:16:09,600
any language at all,
post something online.

1424
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,066
-We will look. Help us.
-Yeah.

1425
01:16:12,066 --> 01:16:14,867
I think that is important
because of how long

1426
01:16:14,867 --> 01:16:16,967
-it took for us
to get that voice.
-Yeah.

1427
01:16:16,967 --> 01:16:19,567
-We didn't get any more voices
after that.
-[Aaron] Right.

1428
01:16:19,567 --> 01:16:21,967
So it was like, Okay,
let's change to another
device.

1429
01:16:21,967 --> 01:16:23,567
The APFD processor.

1430
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:27,567
[static playing]

1431
01:16:28,834 --> 01:16:29,867
<i>Did you see a little girl?</i>

1432
01:16:29,867 --> 01:16:30,867
You hear it right there?

1433
01:16:30,867 --> 01:16:32,100
<i>Did you see a little girl?</i>

1434
01:16:32,100 --> 01:16:33,767
So it's a female-type sound.

1435
01:16:34,934 --> 01:16:37,133
[static playing]

1436
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,200
And the interesting part
is before we even began

1437
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:44,567
our investigation,
we started hearing

1438
01:16:44,567 --> 01:16:47,033
some female-type sounds,
real low, faint,

1439
01:16:47,033 --> 01:16:48,867
but we could hear them
coming from this room.

1440
01:16:48,867 --> 01:16:52,667
-Okay, go ahead, next piece.
-Okay, same device.

1441
01:16:54,100 --> 01:16:56,033
<i>Is your little girl there?</i>

1442
01:16:56,033 --> 01:16:59,066
[static playing]

1443
01:17:00,066 --> 01:17:02,600
After 35 minutes,
we're getting...

1444
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:05,867
-There are several
things there.
-There's three things.

1445
01:17:05,867 --> 01:17:09,166
Zak asked the question,
is there a little girl here?

1446
01:17:09,166 --> 01:17:12,867
-[Rachel] Mm-hmm.
-And right after that,
a voice says, no.

1447
01:17:12,867 --> 01:17:15,266
And then there's a pause,
and another voice,

1448
01:17:15,266 --> 01:17:18,166
a different voice,
says, she left.

1449
01:17:18,166 --> 01:17:19,567
And then Zak starts talking.

1450
01:17:19,567 --> 01:17:21,100
Hmm.

1451
01:17:21,100 --> 01:17:25,367
-And then--
-And then, it says,
a little girl says, daddy?

1452
01:17:25,367 --> 01:17:26,967
<i>Is there a little girl there?</i>

1453
01:17:27,467 --> 01:17:28,834
[voice speaking]

1454
01:17:31,300 --> 01:17:34,600
-After 35 minutes,
we're getting...
-[gasps]

1455
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:35,834
<i>Daddy?</i>

1456
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:40,000
-Wow.
-So here's the...
We heard that in real time.

1457
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:41,967
-Yeah.
<i>-Is there a little girl there?</i>

1458
01:17:41,967 --> 01:17:43,567
[voice speaking]

1459
01:17:45,967 --> 01:17:48,367
<i>After 35 minutes,</i>
<i>we're getting...</i>

1460
01:17:49,467 --> 01:17:51,734
-Do you hear it, Rachel?
-That gave me goosebumps.

1461
01:17:51,734 --> 01:17:52,767
Okay.

1462
01:17:52,767 --> 01:17:55,934
I thought that was
a crazy communication session.

1463
01:17:55,934 --> 01:17:58,200
It literally answered
your question like that.

1464
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:00,066
-You asked the question
and said no.
-Really?

1465
01:18:00,066 --> 01:18:01,500
So it's interacting.

1466
01:18:01,500 --> 01:18:03,467
-It is interacting.
-And it's intelligent.

1467
01:18:03,467 --> 01:18:04,834
And that's a good point
you make.

1468
01:18:04,834 --> 01:18:07,367
It is interacting
intelligently.

1469
01:18:07,367 --> 01:18:10,300
-So they're hearing us.
-We're hearing them.

1470
01:18:10,300 --> 01:18:12,734
There's your established
interaction.

1471
01:18:12,734 --> 01:18:14,667
And that's what this all
comes down to.

1472
01:18:19,066 --> 01:18:22,867
<i>We are now ready to review</i>
<i>the sound that we captured</i>
<i>upstairs.</i>

1473
01:18:23,967 --> 01:18:27,166
I've been investigating
for a very long time, Rachel.

1474
01:18:27,166 --> 01:18:31,767
And what I heard was
one of the strangest,

1475
01:18:31,767 --> 01:18:33,934
most disturbing things.

1476
01:18:33,934 --> 01:18:36,266
It wasn't that I even
just heard it.

1477
01:18:36,266 --> 01:18:37,734
I felt it.

1478
01:18:37,734 --> 01:18:41,000
It was like a shock
that came out of it.

1479
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,767
This is an upstairs noise.
We have no idea where

1480
01:18:43,767 --> 01:18:45,867
-the sound came from,
but it was in the air.
-Hmm.

1481
01:18:51,467 --> 01:18:54,367
[strange sounds playing]

1482
01:18:57,667 --> 01:18:59,467
<i>-What is that?</i>
-What is that?

1483
01:18:59,467 --> 01:19:01,567
-Have you ever heard anything
like that?
-No.

1484
01:19:01,567 --> 01:19:03,233
And it's talking.

1485
01:19:03,233 --> 01:19:05,400
It's... There's conversation
in there.

1486
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:06,500
Isn't that strange?

1487
01:19:07,100 --> 01:19:08,166
It's very strange.

1488
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,734
[unexplained sounds playing]

1489
01:19:19,467 --> 01:19:23,266
Okay, so now this is where

1490
01:19:23,266 --> 01:19:26,567
[bleep] really started to hit
the fan.

1491
01:19:27,867 --> 01:19:29,967
<i>-Can we hear you?</i>
<i>-</i> pulsed static playing]

1492
01:19:32,834 --> 01:19:34,100
[voice] <i>Hello.</i>

1493
01:19:34,100 --> 01:19:37,033
-Hello?
-Hello?

1494
01:19:37,033 --> 01:19:38,100
[Billy] You know,
what's weird?

1495
01:19:38,100 --> 01:19:40,600
When you're planning on this,
I hear, like, help,

1496
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,166
which is scarier, honestly.

1497
01:19:43,166 --> 01:19:44,166
Play it again.

1498
01:19:46,567 --> 01:19:48,367
-Hello?
-Hello?

1499
01:19:48,367 --> 01:19:50,367
-Now I'm hearing that.
-[Zak] What?

1500
01:19:50,367 --> 01:19:51,867
It sounds like "Help."

1501
01:19:52,934 --> 01:19:54,934
Hello?

1502
01:19:56,133 --> 01:19:57,867
Okay, let's move on
to the next one.

1503
01:19:59,166 --> 01:20:01,266
-Hello?
-Hello?

1504
01:20:01,266 --> 01:20:03,667
-Hello?
-Again?

1505
01:20:03,667 --> 01:20:06,667
-[all laughing]
-You can tell how amped
we are.

1506
01:20:06,667 --> 01:20:08,867
Some people tell me, oh,
don't get so excited.

1507
01:20:08,867 --> 01:20:10,967
-I'm not listening to you.
-You guys are excited.

1508
01:20:10,967 --> 01:20:13,367
But that did sound more
like a hello.

1509
01:20:13,367 --> 01:20:14,166
-Yeah.
-That one did.

1510
01:20:14,166 --> 01:20:15,000
This one.

1511
01:20:16,266 --> 01:20:17,500
Hello?

1512
01:20:17,500 --> 01:20:20,166
-Hello?
-Hello?

1513
01:20:21,266 --> 01:20:24,500
<i>We now begin reviewing</i>
<i>the Polaroids that Aaron took.</i>

1514
01:20:25,867 --> 01:20:29,166
I would say there's at least
100 that are easy.

1515
01:20:29,166 --> 01:20:33,100
After all that,
I got three pictures
that have something on it.

1516
01:20:33,100 --> 01:20:36,667
The first one is
a strange light anomaly

1517
01:20:36,667 --> 01:20:38,500
that's coming from Zak.

1518
01:20:38,500 --> 01:20:42,934
In all the other photos,
there is no weird light
anomalies

1519
01:20:42,934 --> 01:20:44,734
like this that wrap around
his body.

1520
01:20:44,734 --> 01:20:46,867
And I will say,
in this exact moment

1521
01:20:46,867 --> 01:20:48,467
when this photo was taken,

1522
01:20:48,467 --> 01:20:51,467
I stood in that same position
the entire time,

1523
01:20:51,467 --> 01:20:53,166
<i>absolutely still.</i>

1524
01:20:53,166 --> 01:20:55,066
<i>We are now ready to review</i>
<i>the footage</i>

1525
01:20:55,066 --> 01:20:58,367
<i>of Heather O'Rourke's doll</i>
<i>falling off the bookcase.</i>

1526
01:21:00,266 --> 01:21:01,767
<i>At the beginning of the night,</i>

1527
01:21:01,767 --> 01:21:03,834
<i>we placed the doll</i>
<i>on a bookcase</i>

1528
01:21:03,834 --> 01:21:07,567
<i>along with a baby monitor,</i>
<i>which I used to ask the doll</i>

1529
01:21:07,567 --> 01:21:09,133
<i>to move.</i>

1530
01:21:09,133 --> 01:21:11,567
Can you move the doll
in the room?

1531
01:21:11,567 --> 01:21:13,266
<i>Can you move the doll?</i>

1532
01:21:14,266 --> 01:21:15,867
Move the [bleep] doll.

1533
01:21:15,867 --> 01:21:18,567
<i>At this point, it was</i>
<i>the end of the night.</i>

1534
01:21:18,567 --> 01:21:23,266
<i>Hours had passed</i>
<i>when something</i>
<i>incredible happened.</i>

1535
01:21:23,266 --> 01:21:26,367
I want you to watch
what happens to this doll.

1536
01:21:29,567 --> 01:21:30,667
Oh.

1537
01:21:30,667 --> 01:21:34,467
Oh, my God.

1538
01:21:34,467 --> 01:21:36,667
-And that's been sitting there
all night.
-All night.

1539
01:21:36,667 --> 01:21:39,367
It's been sitting there
all night.

1540
01:21:41,834 --> 01:21:44,867
Now the question is,
did it just fall over

1541
01:21:44,867 --> 01:21:49,266
due to gravity,
or did something
influence it to fall?

1542
01:21:49,867 --> 01:21:51,166
Go back to it.

1543
01:21:51,166 --> 01:21:53,467
Yeah, that doll
was stationary.

1544
01:21:53,467 --> 01:21:56,734
What is that glowing on it?
Is there something
in its hair?

1545
01:21:56,734 --> 01:21:58,867
-Oh, yeah, right there.
I see that.
-But then it goes away.

1546
01:21:58,867 --> 01:22:00,667
-It just went away.
-Are you serious?

1547
01:22:00,667 --> 01:22:02,133
-It's not moving.
-It goes away.

1548
01:22:02,133 --> 01:22:04,266
-It just went away.
-It stopped glowing.

1549
01:22:04,266 --> 01:22:07,667
[Zak] <i>It isn't until now</i>
<i>that we make this discovery</i>

1550
01:22:07,667 --> 01:22:12,300
<i>of a strange glowing light</i>
<i>right here in her hair</i>

1551
01:22:12,300 --> 01:22:16,367
<i>that then slowly dims to dark.</i>

1552
01:22:16,367 --> 01:22:18,367
What the [bleep] is that?

1553
01:22:18,367 --> 01:22:19,567
Dude.

1554
01:22:20,133 --> 01:22:21,600
How in the hell?

1555
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:24,233
And it's not some battery
in the thing because it's old.

1556
01:22:24,233 --> 01:22:25,967
-There's no electronics in
it at all.
-From the '80s.

1557
01:22:25,967 --> 01:22:28,266
-There aren't any electronics
in it at all.
-No.

1558
01:22:28,266 --> 01:22:32,033
It's like that little light
that was outside the window.

1559
01:22:32,033 --> 01:22:34,734
-Outside the window.
-But the light goes away.

1560
01:22:34,734 --> 01:22:37,367
-Maybe it's like the energy--
-Did you see that?

1561
01:22:37,367 --> 01:22:39,767
-I did.
-What is your take on that?

1562
01:22:39,767 --> 01:22:43,600
My initial take on it
is that it came down

1563
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:45,667
-almost as if it were dragged.
-Right.

1564
01:22:45,667 --> 01:22:47,867
-Right.
-But the light...

1565
01:22:47,867 --> 01:22:49,467
-It went away.
-It goes away.

1566
01:22:54,300 --> 01:22:56,567
-Well, Rachel.
-Well.

1567
01:22:56,567 --> 01:22:59,734
What do you think?
Is this poltergeist activity

1568
01:22:59,734 --> 01:23:02,467
that we captured in
the <i>Poltergeist</i> ouse?

1569
01:23:02,467 --> 01:23:05,600
-It's very strange.
-We never expected this.

1570
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:07,166
-Never.
-I never expected this.

1571
01:23:07,166 --> 01:23:09,100
It has these weird
little lights in it.

1572
01:23:10,300 --> 01:23:13,600
[Zak] <i>This film altered</i>
<i>my childhood.</i>

1573
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:15,934
<i>I never thought I would</i>
<i>be able to dive deep</i>

1574
01:23:15,934 --> 01:23:18,600
<i>into the strange curse</i>
<i>as an adult.</i>

1575
01:23:20,967 --> 01:23:23,100
<i>My childhood fear...</i>

1576
01:23:23,100 --> 01:23:25,867
<i>is more real now than</i>
<i>ever before.</i>


